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Intro
Welcome to another Evolutionary.org Hardcore 2.0 Episode #30. Today, Steve and Mobster take a deep dive into using Dianabol for bulk using Para Pharma. The guys have used Dianabol (Dbol) multiple times and it has been around in bodybuilding since atleast the 1960’s. Known as the Breakfast of Champions, it is one of the best steroids for boosting mood and appetite, and it is also one of the most 'dummy-proof' steroids out there. Anyone can use it and bulk up nicely on it.
History
Mobster first talks about how Dr. John Ziegler brought steroids to America to help their athletes compete with their Russian rivals during the Cold War Olympics. The main objective was to make it easier for Americans to use performance-enhancing hormones. This is how the Dianabol boom started, since it is similar to injectable testosterone, but doesn't require injections.
The Cold War happened after WW2, and involved the USA and Russia competing to see who could mark their influence in other countries, and overall who was better at things like science and sports. The moon race was one aspect, but another was the performance at the Olympics and the pride of the countries. Steve explains this was a motivating factor to how Dianabol got into the hands of American Olympians during this era and it worked very well at boosting strength and muscle mass.
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Structure
When it comes to how Dbol is structured there is a method to the madness of how it was developed. Steve explains that the geek chemists played around with the testosterone molecule and came up with something as close to it as possible in pill form that you could swallow. The taboo of injections played a factor, and also the ability to simply put pills in your pocket to carry vs. risking getting seen with needles.
In the end, they came up with something similar to testosterone suspension that would be in and out of your system much faster than a slow-releasing testosterone ester. Structurally, the 2 differences are a double carbon bond at 1-2; and also the fact it is 17-alpha alkylated (17AA). This meant it could enter the liver and pass through the body without being destroyed. The upside to this is that it would be very effective, but the downside is of course that there will be some liver toxicity.
Compare that to another oral steroid called Andriol, which is testosterone in pill form, but it isn't 17AA. This means that you would need to take a bunch of Andriol to get any sort of decent effect, while Dbol is much more powerful mg/mg.
The guys then discuss the fact that Dbol will aromatize rapidly in the body, boosting a lot of water in the muscle and giving the person a fuller look. Due to all of the above, if you are looking to bulk up quickly, Dianabol is a very good option.
Side effects
Dianabol has 2 types of side effects and they are estrogenic issues and androgenic issues.
The guys go over some of the estrogen-related side effects which include bloating, water retention, moon face, insomnia, gynecomastia, and the domino effects of all of that. For these reasons, it is smart to have some strong anti-estrogen ancillaries on hand such as letrozole, Nolvadex, Arimidex, and aromasin. These AI's and SERM's help control estrogen on cycle and into PCT and Para Pharma sells all of them.
The androgenic issues from Dianabol include heart strain, acne, and aggression. Also, as mentioned above dbol is liver toxic, so a good support supplement is a wise choice to help with this. Overall, Dbol is a 'feel good' steroid so you generally will not get angry or grumpy on it like other steroids such as Tren.
Mobster reminds everyone of the crippling and famous "dbol pumps" which can be a wonderful thing if you like feeling and watching your muscles look like they are about to explode out of your body. But it can be a pain if you are trying to jog on a calf that is blowing up like a balloon as it pumps up.
Dosing, stacking, and more
Because Dianabol has such a short half-life you can run it many different ways. You can use it to kickstart a cycle, run it mid-cycle, and run it to finish a cycle. You can also run it solo or stacked, depending on what you are trying to accomplish.
The guys go over some of their favorite ways to run it in this segment.
If you want to stick with just orals you can run Dbol anywhere from 20-50mgs a day for up to 8 weeks.
Another option if you want to stack another oral with it is doing Para Pharma dbol 20mgs a day, along with Para Pharma Tbol 20mgs a day or Para Pharma Anavar 25mgs a day for up to 8 weeks.
A popular bulking method is using Dbol to kickstart a cycle in the first 4 to 6 weeks. This can work well with a longer-acting injectable because you will be able to get a lot of appetite increases early in the cycle to build off of. Para Pharma Equipoise, Para Pharma Tren, Para Pharma Testosterone, or any other decent bulking injectable stacks well with Dbol.
In the golden age of the 70's, some of the famous old-school bodybuilders would use Dbol to bulk in the offseason and they loved stacking it with either Para Pharma Deca durabolin or Para Pharma Primobolan. They stacked well because both those injectables have a low to no conversion to estrogen in the body.
If you do choose to run Dbol at high dosages or with another aromatizing steroid it is a wise choice to run some sort of anti-estrogen. A good starting dose of aromasin, for example, would be 12.5mgs 2-3x per week, but adjustments will be needed based on personal experience. Para Pharma has you covered across the board here.
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Why Para Pharma?
The guys explain that even though Dianabol is considered a very cheap steroid to produce it is still sometimes made with inferior ingredients that don't belong in the body. Sources trying to cut corners will use cheap fillers and underdose the product. This is why it is important to use a trusted brand like Para Pharma.
Para Pharma has 2 options for Dianabol.
They have an oral version which comes in 100 pills 20mgs per pill. They also have an injectable that comes in a 10ML vial at 100mg/ML.
Forums
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References
- Influence of exercise and Dianabol on the degradation rate of myofibrillar proteins of the heart and three fiber types of skeletal muscle of female guinea pigs
- Falsification of Thai dianabol
- Biotransformation of dianabol with the filamentous fungi and β-glucuronidase inhibitory activity of resulting metabolites
- Contractile responses of rat lateral gastrocnemius and soleus to dianabol (17 beta-hydroxy-17-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one) and exercise
- Anabolic action of dianabol (17 alpha-methyl-17beta-hydroxyandrosta-1, 4-dien-3-one) on the nitrogen balance and skeletal muscle composition of rats fed on field bean (Vicia faba L.)