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Thread: Is the Pull out method and 250mg TRT without HCG a reckless form of birth control?

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    Is the Pull out method and 250mg TRT without HCG a reckless form of birth control?

    Title basically says it all. I have been on TRT 250mg with a 3 month blast cycle of 500mg for the last 1.5 years. According to WebMd, the withdrawal method is anywhere from 80-95% effective (per year) if used as the only form of birth control.

    Additionally, TRT drastically reduces sperm count (or even completely renders you infertile) especially when taken for long periods of time.

    Of course it is not perfect, and the only way to be 100% sure is to use condoms or some form of female hormonal birth control.

    Am I being reckless if I do not want kids anytime soon using these 2 methods in conjunction? (This is all with the same partner so STIs are not a concern). Thanks in advance.

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    I used the pullout method and have two beautiful little girls. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandontx View Post
    I used the pullout method and have two beautiful little girls. Lol.
    Thanks for the input. Were you blasting and cruising without HCG for some time during this? Or was it off cycle/natty? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim18365 View Post
    Title basically says it all. I have been on TRT 250mg with a 3 month blast cycle of 500mg for the last 1.5 years. According to WebMd, the withdrawal method is anywhere from 80-95% effective (per year) if used as the only form of birth control.

    Additionally, TRT drastically reduces sperm count (or even completely renders you infertile) especially when taken for long periods of time.

    Of course it is not perfect, and the only way to be 100% sure is to use condoms or some form of female hormonal birth control.

    Am I being reckless if I do not want kids anytime soon using these 2 methods in conjunction? (This is all with the same partner so STIs are not a concern). Thanks in advance.
    As I'm sure you'll guess it wont matter what we say if she gets pregnant. At best we can say the odds are lower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    As I'm sure you'll guess it wont matter what we say if she gets pregnant. At best we can say the odds are lower
    Fair enough, just trying to quantify this with even a low degree of accuracy. But youre right, at worst I can conclude, that withdrawal is a not-great form of BC, and TRT turns it into a slightly better form of BC. And depending on how low/high my sperm levels are, may make a massive or very small difference.

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    if you pull out you cannot get someone pregnant
    but if you came earlier that day and didn't shower and then have sex again and pull out then you CAN get someone pregnant

    as far as TRT and sperm, yes it will reduce your sperm a lot. will it be at zero? maybe. you can get sperm tested to see how many swimmers you are making, also if you are making swimmers still they won't be motile, meaning they will be like 1 legged runners at a road race

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    if you pull out you cannot get someone pregnant
    but if you came earlier that day and didn't shower and then have sex again and pull out then you CAN get someone pregnant

    as far as TRT and sperm, yes it will reduce your sperm a lot. will it be at zero? maybe. you can get sperm tested to see how many swimmers you are making, also if you are making swimmers still they won't be motile, meaning they will be like 1 legged runners at a road race

    if you don't want kids do what any doctor will tell you. use 2 forms of birth control
    Yeah, this is basically the logic I am using. Thanks for the reply.

    I guess my main concern is that Im using 2 shitty forms of birth control. Trt + pull out + female BC I would be bulletproof obviously.

    I did not know that the sperm quality decreased so thats good to know. Will probably get a semen analysis so I can talk to a medical professional about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim18365 View Post
    Fair enough, just trying to quantify this with even a low degree of accuracy. But youre right, at worst I can conclude, that withdrawal is a not-great form of BC, and TRT turns it into a slightly better form of BC. And depending on how low/high my sperm levels are, may make a massive or very small difference.
    Even the pull out method and Stevesmi's reply is wrong. Some guys have 'pre cum' and or leakage before coming. So you haven't cum but... you might have unleashed a few swimmers anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim18365 View Post
    Title basically says it all. I have been on TRT 250mg with a 3 month blast cycle of 500mg for the last 1.5 years. According to WebMd, the withdrawal method is anywhere from 80-95% effective (per year) if used as the only form of birth control.

    Additionally, TRT drastically reduces sperm count (or even completely renders you infertile) especially when taken for long periods of time.

    Of course it is not perfect, and the only way to be 100% sure is to use condoms or some form of female hormonal birth control.

    Am I being reckless if I do not want kids anytime soon using these 2 methods in conjunction? (This is all with the same partner so STIs are not a concern). Thanks in advance.
    I think pull out method works really well if you do it right, just pull out early. And being on TRT lowers sperm count too so I think you're fine.

    I use the pull out method and no kids in 4 years.

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