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1st time SARMs-S4 Cycle info

JustSaiyan1981

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Ok, 41 year old New to the SARM Game. I wanted to check in with those who have actually used these SARMs for REAL advice. Some of what I’ll be asking about may seem redundant but I wanted to see what information I can get. again..new to this. the goal is to shed some fat..

So I’m planning to run a 6 week cycle ( because i am new to SARMs) of S4 ( MY thought but I could be wrong) is that its a tad less suppressive and estrogen raising than Osta( I know SARMs don’t “directly” do this but because they suppress, then raising estrogen may happen..I got some oblique and chest fat so im just being cautious)

I wanted to run this along side SR9009 (or 9011) and CARDARINE..extended to 8 weeks

I wanted to run a cycle support product (like DEFEND or Blockade) WITH it

I know because S4 is slightly suppressive, so I want to have an AI on hand FOR the cycle (but I just don’t know what would be the best to use) or if I should.

To just start my test right after the cycle of S4 by using a PCT but I’m unsure which I should get and should it be something like REBIRTH (looking for links to legit NOVA if that would be a better option).

What else should I consider running ON the cycle and AFTER, if anything? Natty test booters? DAA? DIM?
 
Ok, 41 year old New to the SARM Game. I wanted to check in with those who have actually used these SARMs for REAL advice. Some of what I’ll be asking about may seem redundant but I wanted to see what information I can get. again..new to this. the goal is to shed some fat..

So I’m planning to run a 6 week cycle ( because i am new to SARMs) of S4 ( MY thought but I could be wrong) is that its a tad less suppressive and estrogen raising than Osta( I know SARMs don’t “directly” do this but because they suppress, then raising estrogen may happen..I got some oblique and chest fat so im just being cautious)

I wanted to run this along side SR9009 (or 9011) and CARDARINE..extended to 8 weeks

I wanted to run a cycle support product (like DEFEND or Blockade) WITH it

I know because S4 is slightly suppressive, so I want to have an AI on hand FOR the cycle (but I just don’t know what would be the best to use) or if I should.

To just start my test right after the cycle of S4 by using a PCT but I’m unsure which I should get and should it be something like REBIRTH (looking for links to legit NOVA if that would be a better option).

What else should I consider running ON the cycle and AFTER, if anything? Natty test booters? DAA? DIM?

Cycle looks good but I would do 12 weeks....take n2guard during the cycle and I would take Hcgenrate when you come off the sarms cycle
 
no sarms will convert to estrogen at all man. the vague reports of that happenings are either A: people who got fake sarms or B: people who had estrogen rebound from a previous cycle

so do not want any sort of AI or anti estrogen on cycle

i recommend n2guard on cycle, it is an all around support supplement

any suppression you get on legit sarms is minimal, where a mini pct is all you need. something simple like a low dose clomid + test booster is all you need

also make sure of course you buy from sarms.forsale or umbrella so you guarantee you are getting real sarms
 
no sarms will convert to estrogen at all man. the vague reports of that happenings are either A: people who got fake sarms or B: people who had estrogen rebound from a previous cycle

so do not want any sort of AI or anti estrogen on cycle

i recommend n2guard on cycle, it is an all around support supplement

any suppression you get on legit sarms is minimal, where a mini pct is all you need. something simple like a low dose clomid + test booster is all you need

also make sure of course you buy from sarms.forsale or umbrella so you guarantee you are getting real sarms

Thanks bruv.. I'm definitely getting the N2guard for on cycle.. so with S4 ( ill be trying to keep the dosages lower because of the night vision problem..porbably no more than 25), I don’t need to worry about grabbing something like “Arimistane” for any itchy nips or retention, or anything for prolactin like “inhibit P” for the on cycle, then correct?
You mentioned “clomid”…I was thinking nova because its not AS strong..ill look to see if I can find Clo tonight in lower dosage. With a test booster, what should be looking for or how strong? I’m sure those muscle tech supps aint gonna cut it!!

I did look up the SARMs from Umbrella..i’m putting in my order tonight!!! Thanks for the insight and advise!! I cant wait to get this going!!!
 
no sarms will convert to estrogen at all man. the vague reports of that happenings are either A: people who got fake sarms or B: people who had estrogen rebound from a previous cycle

so do not want any sort of AI or anti estrogen on cycle

i recommend n2guard on cycle, it is an all around support supplement

any suppression you get on legit sarms is minimal, where a mini pct is all you need. something simple like a low dose clomid + test booster is all you need

also make sure of course you buy from sarms.forsale or umbrella so you guarantee you are getting real sarms

definitely getting the N2guard for on cycle.. so with S4 ( ill be trying to keep the dosages lower because of the night vision problem), I don’t need to worry about grabbing something like “Arimistane” for any itchy nips or retention, or anything for prolactin like “inhibit P” for the on cycle, then correct?
You mentioned “clomid”…I was thinking nova because its not AS strong..ill look to see if I can find Clo tonight in lower dosage. With a test booster, what should be looking for or how strong? I’m sure those muscle tech supps aint gonna cut it!!

I did look up the SARMs from Umbrella..i’m putting in my order tonight!!! Thanks for the insight and advise!! I cant wait to get this going!!!
 
Ok, 41 year old New to the SARM Game. I wanted to check in with those who have actually used these SARMs for REAL advice. Some of what I’ll be asking about may seem redundant but I wanted to see what information I can get. again..new to this. the goal is to shed some fat..

So I’m planning to run a 6 week cycle ( because i am new to SARMs) of S4 ( MY thought but I could be wrong) is that its a tad less suppressive and estrogen raising than Osta( I know SARMs don’t “directly” do this but because they suppress, then raising estrogen may happen..I got some oblique and chest fat so im just being cautious)

I wanted to run this along side SR9009 (or 9011) and CARDARINE..extended to 8 weeks

I wanted to run a cycle support product (like DEFEND or Blockade) WITH it

I know because S4 is slightly suppressive, so I want to have an AI on hand FOR the cycle (but I just don’t know what would be the best to use) or if I should.

To just start my test right after the cycle of S4 by using a PCT but I’m unsure which I should get and should it be something like REBIRTH (looking for links to legit NOVA if that would be a better option).

What else should I consider running ON the cycle and AFTER, if anything? Natty test booters? DAA? DIM?

Welcome to evolutionary.org family! you're in the right hands for sarms.

First 6 weeks with sarms you're wasting time and money, minimum sarms cycle is 10-12 weeks.

Second, s4 anadrine is not for 1st time sarms guys I wouldn't use it.

Third, dont worry sarms are not estrogenic, suppressive and estrogenic are different things.

Here is your sarms cycle layout.

week 1-12
cardarine gw 20mgs/ed (split 10mgs am 10mgs pm)
ostarine mk2866 25/ed (split 12.5/12.5mgs am pm)
testolone rad140 25/ed (split 12.5/12.5mgs am pm)
n2guard 7capsed/ed (organ liver support for sarms , you can buy n2guard on n2bm.com here )
read about n2guard: https://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard

read about sarms here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/steroids/SARMS

listen to evo podcast on sarms steroids here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

After the cycle you need PCT, 4-5 weeks with nolvadex and hcgenerate natural test booster.

Now that you planning this sarms cycle the first thing to guide you that we need is your LOG journal posted NOW not later, post your diet, training, cardio, supplements so we can see what the situation is.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My SARMS cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/s-gentz-cycle-training-log-86383.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/first-time-tren-log-87653.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-revenge-transformation-log-2023-a-88570.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log-86174.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/contest-peak-cycle-year-85007.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-cycle!-84662.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/summer-bulking-cycle-85543.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/lefr34k-s-training-log-85141.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/pigsy-s-training-log-83248.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/echos-hgh-log-cycle-85429.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/my-cycle-log-85538.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/dozers-journey-stage-cycle-84184.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/s-gentz-contest-prep-log-87619.html
 
use rad140 not s4 and some ostarine with gw and thats your stack and LOG journal a must
 
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none of this make sense

1. sarms do not convert to estrogen

2. sarms are not toxic

3. 6 weeks is a waste and you may as well save your money
 
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