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    Advice on Test/Winstrol cycle please

    Hi there,

    Just after a little advice please and see if Iím on the right track.

    Iím a 37yr old guy, 6Ē3 and 90kgs. Iíve been lifting about 5 years on and off but more consistently the last year.

    Iíve done 1 cycle about 3 yrs ago of just test e at 500mg a week. My results were ok but admittedly my diet and training werenít on point.

    In the last 12 months Iíve been a lot more consistent and gotten down to about 12-13% body fat.

    I do still have some stubborn fat around the belly and love handles so Iím looking to shred down and get rid of the belly for good!

    Can you please let me know what you think and if should make any changes:

    Weeks 1-12 - Test e 350mg (per week)
    Weeks 1-8 - Winstrol 50mg (ed)
    Weeks 1-12 - Aripiprazole .5 mg (eod)
    Weeks 13-14 - Nothing
    Weeks 15-16 - Nolva 40mg (ed)
    Weeks 17-18 - Nolva 20mg (ed)

    My test isnít too high so I wasnít planning on running hcg as Iíve heard itís not completely necessary and I donít really want to introduce more substances than I absolutely need.

    Iím also planning on pinning with an insulin syringe subcutaneously which Iíve heard good things about.

    All advice much appreciated.

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    It looks good to me but are you on diet even?

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    You dont need hcg in pct.Run bloods before the cycle to have a base line.Some will say 350 mgs is enough for cutting but 50 mgs winny is too much for too long.4-6 weeks at 30mg for kick start or at the end of cycle will dry you out real nice.

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    Thanks for the info mate, much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous Alpha View Post
    It looks good to me but are you on diet even?
    He does say he's a lot better with nutrition.

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    just a few things... its not horrible but it needs work... you shouldnt exceed 6 weeks of winstrol... 8 weeks is too much... your pct is just terrible though... thats not even remotely close to what you want to do for pct...

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as wellÖOrgan ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). Thereís a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.


    



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    no need to use winny with your stats at all, switch in tbol or var

    and for pct, just doing nolva is a weak pct. you might as well not do one at all if that is your setup. at the very least add in a strong t booster n2generate
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    Run the pct that Dylan posted above

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    If this was me I would probably use Anavar

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    Dylan gave you an excellent layout

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