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    anavar only cycle - on TRT already

    Ok, I've been convinced by you guys to not use prohormones, but what about this: Because prohormones are out I'm considering doing an anavar only cycle. I understand conventional wisdom is to also do this with test base. In that regard, I'm already on doctor monitored TRT (gel, and yes I know it's not injectable which you all prefer for TRT but yes, it does work just fine for TRT my levels are very good now). Is that sufficient as a "test base" or should I consider bumping up a bit what I'm already using for TRT? I could just slap some more gel on and I also have some testoheal/oral testosterone undecaboate capsules which are also used for TRT. Also, because I'm already on TRT I assume PCT isn't really something I need to worry about after the anavar is done. I'd like to do 6 to 8 weeks. I'm not looking for miracles here, I'd really like to do this as more of a recomposition cycle, I'd like to stay around the same weight while adding a bit of muscle and losing a bit of fat. If I do this I'll also take a liver support to be safe. I just started a SARMS cycle 2 weeks ago and will be doing 10 to 12 weeks (ostarine & ligandrol, along w/ cardarine to help cardio days and ibutamoren which I take long term anyway). I figure if I order the anavar right now it'll arrive in time for me to add it to the last half of the SARM cycle. In terms of testosterone if I need more than I'm already on for TRT maybe I'd order some proviron at the same time as the anavar, I dunno. Thoughts on my ideas, and also what would my anavar dosage schedule be? Thx as always.

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    hello counselor this is physician to help..

    thank goodness you put prohormones to bed or i was going to tell you to stack it with lions teeth for extra vigor lol..

    Anavar was my first cycle at 16yo and was excellent and i have used it many times over the 2 decades since. The true intention of the wisdom to use a Test base is to maintain general libido while using suppressive compounds that are not bio-identical... so as long as everything with that remains suitable & your levels are fine you should be ok, but do consider those are your levels NOW while on this Tgel only as a suppressive androgen **Tgel discussion below**(not sure how much more your LH will be reduced by oxandrolone bc Im not aware of the daily T dosage you are receiving, is it considered full androgen replacement similar to what a 90-131mg/QW would be??? if it is complete coverage that would completely shut you down, then the addition of anavar will be purely additional anabolism.

    Add Testoheal as needed for libido.. not to be used as a anabolic agent of sorts.. this is essentially an anavar only cycle and it will kick ass compared to the SARM supplements (let us know and get started asap IMO..btw, a good domestic source should have your pack at your door in 3-5days from receiving payment unless its a huge website and your order #2k lol)..

    With anavar you will not get miracles but for what you described as the purpose, it is a good beginning (..just like i chose myself) but results will LARGELY be determined by diet and training not medication!.
    6-8wks if fine, or you could, since no PCT is needed here, take a short 2wk break in the middle, say 5-6th wk off, allow your receptors a 'refreshment period' and give yourself something to look forward to while you work hard to maintain or continue to make progress until you jump back on at the 7th wk..

    Proviron.. for what purpose? its adds virtually nothing to your individual situation (its only used in specific situations-also, if you havent downloaded and read 1-2 published books on Anabolics, you should IMO and would enjoy it, one needs a base of knowledge; it would be like jumping into the court room without the book work)..

    if you have the extra money and only use orals, get some winstrol tabs..youll be happy you did plus you can rotate them and see how you respond differently..it is good to know.. and plz let us know too.

    MK677 has shown a continued response for up to 1.5yrs before decreasing so that is good LT, by the sound of it, using GH would be perfect for your goals and is miles ahead of MK obviously.. cardarine is ok too..but id save the SARMs for after you run out of the anavar. (BTW,if you are into SAMs, I hope you buy them by the Gram as powder...esp if you are using MK like i am LT. GH starts this spring for me.

    Lastly (this took some time) Anavar always makes me hungry as does MK...so again DIET is key for you here. If you dont already take Creatine, it is great for all areas of your body, brain included, and is a must go with Var bc of its effects of CS.
    DOSAGE? many will tell you 30-50mg, and certainly that would be fine..I started with real 2.5m oxandrolone tabs at just 10mg and it worked well for a first timer. so you can always start low and work your way up over the 6-8wks.. might be a good idea


    **Tgel** (I am not an advocate of the gel, ive seen all the studies and analyzed the specific level fluctuations and the daily swings are not beneficial or natural IMO and if the 4ml injectable estered Test that is now being sold at US pharmacies (to avoid abuse which is easy with 10ml multi-use vials) is too costly at the pharmacy just get 10ml vials from a private ugl for 40bucks. now if you use the Tgel bc you dont want to inject 1-2x QW..keep in mind how easy it is to back fill a 30g insulin syringe with a 1/4-1/2CC and put it any where..triceps are nice..i mean if a 80yo grandma can handle a slin pin i am sure you can)..years ago i didnt know this and at 18 i was shooting Primo in glutes with 22g 1.5' harpoon..blood would shoot 3ft across the room; thankfully these horrific traumas can now be avoided for 1st timers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawyerguy1 View Post
    Ok, I've been convinced by you guys to not use prohormones, but what about this: Because prohormones are out I'm considering doing an anavar only cycle. I understand conventional wisdom is to also do this with test base. In that regard, I'm already on doctor monitored TRT (gel, and yes I know it's not injectable which you all prefer for TRT but yes, it does work just fine for TRT my levels are very good now). Is that sufficient as a "test base" or should I consider bumping up a bit what I'm already using for TRT? I could just slap some more gel on and I also have some testoheal/oral testosterone undecaboate capsules which are also used for TRT. Also, because I'm already on TRT I assume PCT isn't really something I need to worry about after the anavar is done. I'd like to do 6 to 8 weeks. I'm not looking for miracles here, I'd really like to do this as more of a recomposition cycle, I'd like to stay around the same weight while adding a bit of muscle and losing a bit of fat. If I do this I'll also take a liver support to be safe. I just started a SARMS cycle 2 weeks ago and will be doing 10 to 12 weeks (ostarine & ligandrol, along w/ cardarine to help cardio days and ibutamoren which I take long term anyway). I figure if I order the anavar right now it'll arrive in time for me to add it to the last half of the SARM cycle. In terms of testosterone if I need more than I'm already on for TRT maybe I'd order some proviron at the same time as the anavar, I dunno. Thoughts on my ideas, and also what would my anavar dosage schedule be? Thx as always.
    Bro are you afraid of needles ??? You know oral cycles will cause you alot of problems on sexual part , energy , mood and so much stress on liver . This testogel dont work near as test injectable and this undecaboate test i have used in the past from my local pharmacy and i cand take all bottle for no results ( this dont worth ) . if you are afraid of needles use sarms

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    i don't see the issues using var with your TRT.

    this idea that you have to run test on cycles is just not true. guys in the golden era never ran test in cycles at all and in Asia they rarely do it even today. it seems to be an American thing
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    bro var by itself is weak as hell. run it higher dose or stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONSTRO View Post
    Bro are you afraid of needles ??? You know oral cycles will cause you alot of problems on sexual part , energy , mood and so much stress on liver . This testogel dont work near as test injectable and this undecaboate test i have used in the past from my local pharmacy and i cand take all bottle for no results ( this dont worth ) . if you are afraid of needles use sarms
    They might. It's not a given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONSTRO View Post
    Bro are you afraid of needles ??? You know oral cycles will cause you alot of problems on sexual part , energy , mood and so much stress on liver . This testogel dont work near as test injectable and this undecaboate test i have used in the past from my local pharmacy and i cand take all bottle for no results ( this dont worth ) . if you are afraid of needles use sarms
    I've done quite a few SARM stacks over the past several years, I find them very effective. In terms of the TRT I'm on, if I am going to stay with the MD route it's really his call on how it's delivered so as long as the gel keeps my levels where they need to be I'm fine with that. If he were to recommend injections that'd be fine but frankly the idea of having to do somewhat frequent trips to the clinic for an injection sounds like a pain on the ass, I'm busy enough as it is. I know I could order on my own but then I'm paying a premium for not going thru insurance, and I pay enough for the various SARMS and other things I buy on the side

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    I'd be running it with a SARM stack. I've done multiple SARM cycles over the recent years. Like I say, not looking for miracles here, just a little added oomph. At this point in life I'm 47 and at 6' 4" my weight is usually in the kinda lean 220's to low 230's at most, so I think of myself as an over the hill wide receiver or point guard kinda guy as oppose to a body builder or powerlifter, lol. by adding anavar (or maybe winstrol?) I'm more going for the in shape decathalete sorta look. Now, when I was in my mid to late 30's. . . back then I ate very clean, ate a ton (very expensive), lifted very hard and big. I was a VERY lean 240 and I gotta say. . . after a good workout everything popped and I looked like a monster. I liked that but it was hard as fuck to maintain, the physical recover was getting hard and now 10 years later my joints just can't take the abuse anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawyerguy1 View Post
    I'd be running it with a SARM stack. I've done multiple SARM cycles over the recent years. Like I say, not looking for miracles here, just a little added oomph. At this point in life I'm 47 and at 6' 4" my weight is usually in the kinda lean 220's to low 230's at most, so I think of myself as an over the hill wide receiver or point guard kinda guy as oppose to a body builder or powerlifter, lol. by adding anavar (or maybe winstrol?) I'm more going for the in shape decathalete sorta look. Now, when I was in my mid to late 30's. . . back then I ate very clean, ate a ton (very expensive), lifted very hard and big. I was a VERY lean 240 and I gotta say. . . after a good workout everything popped and I looked like a monster. I liked that but it was hard as fuck to maintain, the physical recover was getting hard and now 10 years later my joints just can't take the abuse anymore.
    Nothing in life is easy and this sport is not for all . if you think pin one time per week test is pain in the ass then imagine all day many times per day . we all know test is always necessary at least low dosage to keep sex drive , mood and energy , but is just my opinion and many others on this business .

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    I see no issue running var and SARMs with a TRT routine.
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