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    Any College Football Players out there? Need some help

    Hey guys,

    So I am currently planning on walking on to a 1AA football program and have some questions about drug testing. I've never actually used anything but I am considering it. I sent my film to the coach and he said that if I can gain around 20lbs without losing much speed then I will have spot on the team. I could probably gain the weight I need but Im worried that unless I use something to give me an edge I will never get my shot to actually play considering I will be among a group of genetically blessed, born to be athletes. Now I know alot of you guys have strong opinions about gear's role in sports but 1) it is more prevalent than you would think and 2) this is my dream and I would literally do anything to achieve it. So while I appreciate your guys opinions of what I should do, I am more looking for info on the likelihood of getting tested. Also just want to let you guys know that I dont take this decision lightly, I have spent the last couple weeks planning out a simple test cycle and looking into every possible side effect and trying to shift through the bro science towards the truth. I also have checked out all of the NCAA's information about drug testing which states, "In year-round testing events, student-athletes
    may be selected on the basis of sport, position, competitive ranking, athletics financial-aid status, playing time, directed testing, an NCAA-approved random selection or any combination thereof."

    So presumably if I juiced to make weight and gain an edge in time for spring ball I wouldnt be on financial aid, I wouldnt have any playing time and football wouldnt be in season. But is there anyone out there who could answer some of these questions?:

    Will all walk-ons who are offered a spot on the team be tested before they can accept the offer?

    What is the frequency that 1AA walk ons would be tested by the school?

    What is the frequency that 1 AA walks on would be tested by the NCAA?

    Thanks guys

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    Doesn't matter if your a walk on or not bro. If you make the team you are theoretically just as likely to be tested as anyone on the team. Tough to say I played a different sport but we had school and NCAA testing... for me we knew typically around what time of year which came but never knew who or how many

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightSkoal View Post
    Doesn't matter if your a walk on or not bro. If you make the team you are theoretically just as likely to be tested as anyone on the team. Tough to say I played a different sport but we had school and NCAA testing... for me we knew typically around what time of year which came but never knew who or how many
    How often would you be tested in the off season?

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    Also I was planning on taking Test E for 12 weeks. I read online that it would stay positive on a urine test for 3 months after last injection. If I started my cycle this week or the next I could be done by early December and I wouldnt start training with the team until January or February sometime. What do you guys think/?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    How often would you be tested in the off season?

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    Also I was planning on taking Test E for 12 weeks. I read online that it would stay positive on a urine test for 3 months after last injection. If I started my cycle this week or the next I could be done by early December and I wouldnt start training with the team until January or February sometime. What do you guys think/?
    I wouldn't risk it. I read all your posts and your story hit home but I still wouldn't risk it. Most of the drug tests also involve a polygraph test, which you will fail.

    Testosterone enanthate is detectable up to 6 months after use. Your best option if you don't take my advice would be testosterone propinate. It has a very short haft life and needs to be injected EOD or MWF.

    Still, I don't think it's worth it. If you get caught using performance enhancing drugs you will be banned from the league and then have ZERO shot on ever being able to make the team. I would supplement with a good quality testosterone booster (HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com), creatine monohydrate (ancient strength from n2bm.com), BCAA (gear from n2bm.com), a high quality multivitamin (ruthless 3D from n2bm.com) and a high quality fish oil. Perfect your diet and training. If it's meant that you make the team, you will make it.

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    Each sport is different mine not as crazy as football. Like Muskate said, if you decide not to listen prop would be your only hope. I would not recommend this. I've seen many great careers tarnished with one bust. Your best bet is to do it natty and figure out the schedule once your on the team.

    I will say most likely no polygraph for you though. School test is not as big a deal it's the NCAA one that's most troubling.

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    athletes are on PED's.. you don't need to come on here and try to convince us of that bro lol. they use short acting and no esters which are difficult to detect, that is their secret

    having said that I hate to burst your bubble but steroids are not going to make you into a great football player. if it was that easy then every vet on here with years of steroid use under their belt would be playing in the NFL. you probably know this (I hope) but others reading this thread who are 17/18 might think all they have to do is inject some roids and they will magically be playing in the NFL 4 years later signing a million dollar contract and leading their team to the super bowl. its a pipe dream and the odds of making it in any pro sport is the same as getting hit by lightning, probably even less

    also take it from me since I used to compete in endurance sports that your coach is telling you to put on 20 pounds AND keep your speed.. not going to happen that fast.. impossible. for every 5 pounds you gain you shave 5 seconds MINIMUM off your 200M time. now over the course of years you can most definitely accomplish that feat.. but its not going to happen within a few months, your coach is pretty much backhanding you and giving you a goal that isn't feasible on purpose.

    in any event good luck in your dreams. I played football and it is a fun game, very dangerous, but fun nonetheless
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    Exactly what Steve said. Not worth it bro... Like Steve said its not a magic pill

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightSkoal View Post
    Doesn't matter if your a walk on or not bro. If you make the team you are theoretically just as likely to be tested as anyone on the team. Tough to say I played a different sport but we had school and NCAA testing... for me we knew typically around what time of year which came but never knew who or how many
    this man, the risk is up to you..

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    I walked on at a d1 program and we pretty much always knew when tests were coming (not from a coach, but from staffers/ga's).

    I was not tested when I walked on.

    I got tested once over a year and a half (pot arrest killed my dream before I had the chance to be tested again... Being a stupid kid still haunts me to this day).

    Never got tested by the ncaa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muskate View Post
    I wouldn't risk it. I read all your posts and your story hit home but I still wouldn't risk it. Most of the drug tests also involve a polygraph test, which you will fail.

    Testosterone enanthate is detectable up to 6 months after use. Your best option if you don't take my advice would be testosterone propinate. It has a very short haft life and needs to be injected EOD or MWF.

    Still, I don't think it's worth it. If you get caught using performance enhancing drugs you will be banned from the league and then have ZERO shot on ever being able to make the team. I would supplement with a good quality testosterone booster (HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com), creatine monohydrate (ancient strength from n2bm.com), BCAA (gear from n2bm.com), a high quality multivitamin (ruthless 3D from n2bm.com) and a high quality fish oil. Perfect your diet and training. If it's meant that you make the team, you will make it.
    Yeah I hear that for sure. Im leaning towards doing my best natty. As far as supplementation goes though I'm actually doing all of this with a few exceptions, I use CEE instead of monohydrate because due to its increased absorption and thus effectiveness. The one thing from the list above I am not taking is HCGenerate. At first I was super skeptical of HCGenerate because it seemed like a bunch of BS herbs that would just be placebo effect but then I researched all of the ingredients on http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ which is like a scientific research database and there's actually alot of science behind it, it would doubtlessly raise T levels.

    The one question I have about it though is do you guys think that just taking HCGenerate would raise my levels enough to make any sort of anabolic difference or would it just raise my levels nominally on paper?
    Has anyone been able to find bloods on just HCGenerate? I think that would be good info to have for sure, Im curious to see to what extent it works...

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