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    Beginner looking for advice (from experienced people) DBol and Test E cycle

    Hey guys,

    I'm a 37 year old male that is lookin to put on some mass. Right now I'm 6'3'' 225# and looking at my first steroid cycle. I'd like some advice or tips on what I'm thinking about doing. Thanks for your help!

    Week 1-4 Dbol 25mg daily
    Week 1-12 Test E 250mg twice a week, M and Th
    Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg daily
    Week 1-12 Liver support, detox with Milk Thistle. 2-4 capsules daily

    PCT
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpinatx View Post
    Hey guys,

    I'm a 37 year old male that is lookin to put on some mass. Right now I'm 6'3'' 225# and looking at my first steroid cycle. I'd like some advice or tips on what I'm thinking about doing. Thanks for your help!

    Week 1-4 Dbol 25mg daily
    Week 1-12 Test E 250mg twice a week, M and Th
    Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg daily
    Week 1-12 Liver support, detox with Milk Thistle. 2-4 capsules daily

    PCT
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10
    250mg Test with Aromasin 12.5mg Daily is a bit too much even if you are Estrogen pron.

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    i would not run more than test on your first cycle, period... running multiple compounds is not smart when you are first starting out... your pct is very very weak as well...


    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.


    



clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25 

    nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 

    aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
    DGA ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

    mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
    
gw-501516 20 mg day esarms.com





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    Thanks Dylan. What would you recommend for PCT on just test? Also, I found the DGA and caradine but couldn't find MK-2866 anywhere. Do you have a recommendation on source

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    500 test total.

    Its sooo varied but that dose aromasin sounds hi to me... Prob start at like 6mg eod at first, or 12 eod.
    Last thing u want is crashed estrogen straight off the batt.

    The last 4 weeks u could add another oral. 50mg winstrol, or some tbol.

    There's so many options available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpinatx View Post
    Thanks Dylan. What would you recommend for PCT on just test? Also, I found the DGA and caradine but couldn't find MK-2866 anywhere. Do you have a recommendation on source
    Esarms.com has mk-2866 (ostarine) and it's top quality. Your PCT should be as Dylan laid out regardless of your dosage. 250mg per week will shut you down just the same as 450mg would. Personally, I agree with Dylan on dropping the dbol as well. You could probably up the test to 300-350mg per week though.
    Last edited by P0N; 09-18-2019 at 04:33 PM.

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    way too much aromasin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theorem View Post
    way too much aromasin
    Agreed.

    12.5mg every OTHER day should be more than enough and you want to verify this with blood work at the 5-6 weeks mark. I only need 12.5mg every three days but I am not very estrogen prone at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanpinatx View Post
    Hey guys,

    I'm a 37 year old male that is lookin to put on some mass. Right now I'm 6'3'' 225# and looking at my first steroid cycle. I'd like some advice or tips on what I'm thinking about doing. Thanks for your help!

    Week 1-4 Dbol 25mg daily
    Week 1-12 Test E 250mg twice a week, M and Th
    Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg daily
    Week 1-12 Liver support, detox with Milk Thistle. 2-4 capsules daily

    PCT
    Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10
    What's your diet like?

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    just take n2guard instead of all those support supps

    i would think about swapping dbol with tbol. less aromatizing

    also your pct is super weak. a serm only pct is pointless. at the very least add in n2generate
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