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    Bloodwork check

    Hello guys,

    Started a cycle 6 weeks ago.
    At cycle start I had
    Estradiol 131 pmol/L (41 - 159 scale)
    Test 13.48 nmol/L (10-28 scale)


    Started t-bol and test e
    After 3 weeks
    Estradiol 766 pmol/L (41 - 159 scale)
    Test 52 nmol/L (10-28 scale)
    Gained clean 4 kilograms (from 90 to 94).
    Great strength gains
    No visible high esterogen symptoms

    Then started arimidex .5 eod and continued with test e only (dropped tbol because liver tests were pretty bad)
    After 6 weeks
    Estradiol 39 pmol/L (41 - 159 scale)
    Test 52 nmol/L (10-28 scale)

    So as you can see the estradiol is low and a big drop in these 3 Weeks
    Maintained weight and strength. No big improvements which I attribute to the fact that test e hasn't kicked in yet and I had a Easter 2 week shitty food splash followed by a week of low calories to clean up the mess

    My question is regarding arimidex.
    Should I drop it, lower dosage or space it further than eod?

    Plan is to continue with test e and retest blood at 9 weeks, then maybe add another oral if liver is ok, or just finish with test

    Thanks

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    drop it to .25 mg eod

    you need to be running protection anytime you use an oral man.. you need to get on dga organ st now and run it the rest of your cycle... https://www.amazon.com/DGA-Nutraceut.../dp/B0762B5KBG

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctoroo View Post
    My question is regarding arimidex.
    Should I drop it, lower dosage or space it further than eod?

    Thanks
    I'd suggest to start with cutting it by half and see how things look in the next blood work.

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    Should your TEST #s be higher???
    Just based on half-life every every wk some should be compounding with the week before yet at 6wks is the exact same #?
    Also what were ur ALT/AST? How high was it?
    (I mean with a virus it could be in the 1000ís...ALT> AST, drinking 2L of
    Vodka ed it could be 200-400 withe AST HIGHER...as examples)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylangemelli View Post
    drop it to .25 mg eod

    you need to be running protection anytime you use an oral man.. you need to get on dga organ st now and run it the rest of your cycle... https://www.amazon.com/DGA-Nutraceut.../dp/B0762B5KBG

    Thanks Dylan and thanks for all your work on this subject. Unfortunately I avoid ordering for US as customs and postal office here in Eastern Europe are a bunch of idiots.
    I used LIV52 6 pills a day starting day 1 and every day since then.

    Quote Originally Posted by RspctMod14yagoDivMDnow View Post
    Should your TEST #s be higher???
    Just based on half-life every every wk some should be compounding with the week before yet at 6wks is the exact same #?
    Also what were ur ALT/AST? How high was it?
    (I mean with a virus it could be in the 1000ís...ALT> AST, drinking 2L of
    Vodka ed it could be 200-400 withe AST HIGHER...as examples)

    DivMD
    At 3 Weeks (after tbol)
    Alt 45 U/L (should be under 41 according to lab)
    Ast 102 U/L ( should be under 40 according to lab)

    I didn't test them at 6 weeks
    I will retest at 9

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    See the other thread.

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    QUOTE=Mobster;1035435]To clarify - you only took an AI after the blood work?[/QUOTE]
    Took arimidex starting week 4 trough 6
    Bloodwork was on week 3 (high estradiol) and then week 6 (low estradiol)

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    Liver values will always be high when running an oral. That's why we recommend 6 weeks only.

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    Definitely feel like lowering the AI is the right call, and yeah orals destroy liver values. You dont want to run them more than 6 weeks generally, sometimes even less if you are running higher end dosages
    Last edited by P0N; 05-12-2019 at 06:19 AM.

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