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    bulking cycle

    HI guys, can anyone give me a begginers bulking cycle, I am 44 years of age finishing first cycle of test 400mg and winny 50mg eod. 178 lbs 5 11'' quite lean.
    want to use deca but a bit worried about deca dick and gyno.

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    if this is your first cycle, i always recommend test only... i would certainly not use deca on a first cycle...

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    run deca with proviron and you won't get deca dick

    keep the first cycle simple though, i agree with dylan.

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    This is my second cycle can u give me a cycle test Deca proviron, caber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    run deca with proviron and you won't get deca dick
    Steve,
    What is the role of proviron in this combination? I've heard Dylan and others say this but I've never heard a solid explanation for why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enlitenedhooman View Post
    Steve,
    What is the role of proviron in this combination? I've heard Dylan and others say this but I've never heard a solid explanation for why.
    Proviron is a DHT derivative which helps with libido and it also helps raise free test by binding to SHBG, creating a higher free test to total test ratio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyab View Post
    This is my second cycle can u give me a cycle test Deca proviron, caber?
    Test can run anywhere from 250-300mg/week, Deca at 400-600mg/week, proviron at 50mg/day. Have caber on hand in case you need it for prolactin issues. Usually its dosed at .25mg twice a week as needed.

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    awm1981-I realize that, but I don't think that explains what affect it has on combating "Deca dick.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enlitenedhooman View Post
    awm1981-I realize that, but I don't think that explains what affect it has on combating "Deca dick.'
    It does though. Any DHT will help with combating Deca Dick. People choose proviron because of the low side effects and the fact that since it is not liver toxic you can run it the whole cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awm1981 View Post
    It does though. Any DHT will help with combating Deca Dick. People choose proviron because of the low side effects and the fact that since it is not liver toxic you can run it the whole cycle.
    This right here. Proviron combined with caber turns me into a straight up sex fiend even on relatively high doses of deca.

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    Bulking is way more food and fat related than it is gear. Keep that in mind.

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