We have a lot of valued members here at NTBM. A lot of people call this place "home" and sometimes forget that this forum is a place for discussion for the NTBM line. Needto has recently allowed discussions of other products... ie: cycle advice, stacking, half lives, dangers, articles...etc. But if an item is not sold by NTBM, is not sold by an affiliate or sponsor of NTBM and is a "competitive product" by nature to the NTBM line OR is an anabolic steroid, a controlled substance, a Catagory 4 drug...etc...etc...then one should refrain from asking where to purchase these items without the approval of the board staff and/or owners. Not only out of respect for Needto and Angel but for board safety as well as member safety.