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Confirmation before execution of first AAS - Test e

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23 years
172cm (5 feet 7.5 inches)
71.2 kg
12.5% BF (average)
Lifting for 5 years, last 2 years seriously till today
Follows ketogenic diet to maintain BF% and muscle gains.

Cycle-
week 1-4 test e 400mg (2x200/week)
week 5-12 test e 500mg (2x250/week)
clomid 20mg ED in case of sides

week 15 - GnRH 100mcg to tell pituitary to jump start LH and FSH

Bloods will be done just before the cycle and a week after GnRH dosing.

Any bright suggestions folks?

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23 years
172cm (5 feet 7.5 inches)
71.2 kg
12.5% BF (average)
Lifting for 5 years, last 2 years seriously till today
Follows ketogenic diet to maintain BF% and muscle gains.

Cycle-
week 1-4 test e 400mg (2x200/week)
week 5-12 test e 500mg (2x250/week)
clomid 20mg ED in case of sides

week 15 - GnRH 100mcg to tell pituitary to jump start LH and FSH

Bloods will be done just before the cycle and a week after GnRH dosing.

Any bright suggestions folks?

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nolvadex 20mg/day*** not clomid. couldn't find the edit option.
 
Nolvadex is a SERM. It SHOULD not be used on cycle for estrogen control. What you want on cycle for estrogen control is an AI like aromasin.

Check out this video I made on estrogen, AIs and gyno for more info -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMOXPInOwZ8

Article on aromasin -> https://www.evolutionary.org/aromasin-exemestane
Can you describe the reasoning behind not using Nolvadex for gyno control when the symptoms occur?
I know that nolvadex is the compound responsible for not letting the estrogen bind with receptors like those which are located at the nipples.
Whereas aromasin is a suicidal AI that is responsible for not letting the testosterone convert to estrogen by binding itself to the receptors located in fat cells.

And dosing aromasin 12.5mg ED or 25mg EOD, which is better?
I'll try n find my sweet spot btw.

And GnRH 100mcg 2 weeks after last injection is alone good for long term recovery or I should stack nolvadex at 20/20/20/20 (low doses) for weeks 15-18 also?

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Nolvadex is a SERM. It SHOULD not be used on cycle for estrogen control. What you want on cycle for estrogen control is an AI like aromasin.

Check out this video I made on estrogen, AIs and gyno for more info -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMOXPInOwZ8

Article on aromasin -> https://www.evolutionary.org/aromasin-exemestane
can you justify why I shouldn't use nolvadex.
The use of aromasic is very clear to me.
BTW 12.5mg ED or 25mg EOD?

Also, GnRH 100mcg after 2 weeks of last injection is ok long term recovery or should I add nolvadex on low doses(20/20/20/20) too?

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can you justify why I shouldn't use nolvadex.
The use of aromasic is very clear to me.
BTW 12.5mg ED or 25mg EOD?

Also, GnRH 100mcg after 2 weeks of last injection is ok long term recovery or should I add nolvadex on low doses(20/20/20/20) too?

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12.5 mg EOD
 
ok so aromasin 12.5mg EOD during the cycle. And I'll keep some nolva in hand all the time too.

Anybody can comment on trip during PCT?

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ok so aromasin 12.5mg EOD during the cycle. And I'll keep some nolva in hand all the time too.

Anybody can comment on trip during PCT?

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Don't know where you are getting the Triptorelin.
But I don't know of any Peptide Company that's selling Legit Trip.

So you would be better to do a Standard PCT................................ JP
P.S.
And who the Hell told you to use Nolvadex during a Cycle.
You are the Second Guy in as many days, who has gotten the Incorrect Info.
Nolvadex is a SERM, for PCT ONLY.
You need to run an AI when you are On-Cycle.
 
Don't know where you are getting the Triptorelin.
But I don't know of any Peptide Company that's selling Legit Trip.

So you would be better to do a Standard PCT................................ JP
P.S.
And who the Hell told you to use Nolvadex during a Cycle.
You are the Second Guy in as many days, who has gotten the Incorrect Info.
Nolvadex is a SERM, for PCT ONLY.
You need to run an AI when you are On-Cycle.

In India you can get anything pharma grade from pharmacies mostly everywhere. Legit stuff+no prescription needed. Just need a little sense in your shit and he'll give it to you.
So yes I'm getting 100mcg trip. Now can you answer my real question about trip?

Nolvadex during cycle in case of gyno, haven't you heard of this? I read it online only too, maybe old age info then. Aromasin it is. 12.5mg EOD right?


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In India you can get anything pharma grade from pharmacies mostly everywhere. Legit stuff+no prescription needed. Just need a little sense in your shit and he'll give it to you.
So yes I'm getting 100mcg trip. Now can you answer my real question about trip?

Nolvadex during cycle in case of gyno, haven't you heard of this? I read it online only too, maybe old age info then. Aromasin it is. 12.5mg EOD right?


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OK ~ No to Triptorelin for PCT.
Cause while a Little can Jump-Start LH and FSH.
Too much can be a form or Chemical Castration ~ this is a Very Big Down Side for Trip.
Which means, Constant Bloodwork would be needed.
As Dosing can vary between Individuals.

Yes, I've heard of Nolva for Gyno.
But it doesn't address the Heart of the Matter, which is Excess Estrogen.
It only Blocks it at the Receptor, it doesn't Eliminate it.

So Letrozole is the Proven way to address to get rid of Gyno.
Or haven't you Heard of This.................................... JP
P.S.
FYI ~ lots of Fakes in Indian Pharmacies !

Here's just a little on Triptorelin from The National Institute of Health.

[h=3]Triptorelin and the other GnRH analogues cause a profound hypogonadism ("chemical castration") and its common side effects are typical of androgen deprivation, including hot flashes, loss of libido, erectile dysfunction, depression, nausea, diarrhea, weight gain and fluid retention. Rare, but potentially severe adverse events can include immediate hypersensitivity reactions, pituitary apoplexy and, with long term use, weight gain, metabolic changes, diabetes and osteoporosis.[/h]
 
OK ~ No to Triptorelin for PCT.
Cause while a Little can Jump-Start LH and FSH.
Too much can be a form or Chemical Castration ~ this is a Very Big Down Side for Trip.
Which means, Constant Bloodwork would be needed.
As Dosing can vary between Individuals.

Yes, I've heard of Nolva for Gyno.
But it doesn't address the Heart of the Matter, which is Excess Estrogen.
It only Blocks it at the Receptor, it doesn't Eliminate it.

So Letrozole is the Proven way to address to get rid of Gyno.
Or haven't you Heard of This.................................... JP
P.S.
FYI ~ lots of Fakes in Indian Pharmacies !

Here's just a little on Triptorelin from The National Institute of Health.

[h=3]Triptorelin and the other GnRH analogues cause a profound hypogonadism ("chemical castration") and its common side effects are typical of androgen deprivation, including hot flashes, loss of libido, erectile dysfunction, depression, nausea, diarrhea, weight gain and fluid retention. Rare, but potentially severe adverse events can include immediate hypersensitivity reactions, pituitary apoplexy and, with long term use, weight gain, metabolic changes, diabetes and osteoporosis.[/h]

good info [emoji106]
But trip 100mcg(50x2 per week) with blood work would be fine I GUESS. Ofcourse m not sure.
And doaages as high as 1000-4000 are supposed to castrate somebody.
Anyways I think nolva will do me just good in PCT.
So nolva 40/40/20/20 is fine in week 15-18 ?

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Also I'd not use letro since it kills estrogen and weakens the bones IMO. So aromasin 12.5mg EOD is fine for me. yeah?

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Also I'd not use letro since it kills estrogen and weakens the bones IMO. So aromasin 12.5mg EOD is fine for me. yeah?

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Always Aromasin while On-Cycle.

Then if you get Gyno, switch to Letrozole to git rid of the Gyno.
Then go back to the Aromasin.

But so long as you keep Estrogen within Range with the Aromasin.
No Chance of Gyno.................................... JP
P.S.
Triptorelin is just Dangerous for AAS users.
When we have established methods for PCT that are Proven to Work.
 
Always Aromasin while On-Cycle.

Then if you get Gyno, switch to Letrozole to git rid of the Gyno.
Then go back to the Aromasin.

But so long as you keep Estrogen within Range with the Aromasin.
No Chance of Gyno.................................... JP
P.S.
Triptorelin is just Dangerous for AAS users.
When we have established methods for PCT that are Proven to Work.
Good advices.
Appreciate it.

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when to stop aromasin? on last injection or before starting pct?

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Stop the aromasin once you start the clomid/nolvadex. Clomid/nolvadex are SERMS and have anti-estrogen properties so the aromasin is no longer needed.
 
Always Aromasin while On-Cycle.

Then if you get Gyno, switch to Letrozole to git rid of the Gyno.
Then go back to the Aromasin.

But so long as you keep Estrogen within Range with the Aromasin.
No Chance of Gyno.................................... JP
P.S.
Triptorelin is just Dangerous for AAS users.
When we have established methods for PCT that are Proven to Work.

Good advice. Too many wait until they see signs.
 
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