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    Cutting on cycle: When to Reverse Diet...?

    Iíve been trying to do some research on this. Iím on Week 8 of 12 of a cut on test and NPP (NPP introduced at week 4). I know NPP isnít popular for cutting, but the results are very fitting for my goals. Very happy so far; truly amazing compound.

    Objective:
    Minimize lipogenesis and retain as much LBM as possible as I back out of the diet; and to be at a maintenance diet at the most appropriate time while concluding a cycle.

    Question:
    Is it best to reverse / start ramping calories back up while still on cycle, or wait to do that in PCT? I have 4 weeks left. Shall I start to slowly eat more now, or keep dieting hard until PCT, then introduce the reverse diet?

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    I will run the Perfect PCT, all of it is ready to go as prescribed by this forum.

    Since during PCT it is often fraught with a serious unwanted catabolism and lipogenesis period (hence the perfect PCT to mitigate these factors), diet would seem to be a huge part in mitigating as well and is cause for concern as to how to best approach my diet while exiting this cycle that has yielded amazing results.

    You all are the pros here... whatís the right answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetblast View Post
    Iíve been trying to do some research on this. Iím on Week 8 of 12 of a cut on test and NPP (NPP introduced at week 4). I know NPP isnít popular for cutting, but the results are very fitting for my goals. Very happy so far; truly amazing compound.

    Objective:
    Minimize lipogenesis and retain as much LBM as possible as I back out of the diet; and to be at a maintenance diet at the most appropriate time while concluding a cycle.

    Question:
    Is it best to reverse / start ramping calories back up while still on cycle, or wait to do that in PCT? I have 4 weeks left. Shall I start to slowly eat more now, or keep dieting hard until PCT, then introduce the reverse diet?
    Dont increase your calories during PCT, wait until you recover. If you bump up too much in pct when hormones and estrogen are up and down, you will gain bodyfat. Avoid high caloric movements in pct.
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    I will run the Perfect PCT, all of it is ready to go as prescribed by this forum.

    Since during PCT it is often fraught with a serious unwanted catabolism and lipogenesis period (hence the perfect PCT to mitigate these factors), diet would seem to be a huge part in mitigating as well and is cause for concern as to how to best approach my diet while exiting this cycle that has yielded amazing results.

    You all are the pros here... whatís the right answer?

    During pct, your diet should be 50% protein/30% fat/20% carbs, thing higher protein to increase anabolism and decrease catabolism, don't do too much cardio and rest more. Less training during pct, so if you did 6 days before pct per week, do 3 days of training after. Don't worry you wont lose gains, your body just needs time to lower cortisol and recover.

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    Great response... thank you so much.

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    I've never used that protocol

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    reverse dieting should never need to be done if you are eating correctly in the first place

    you all know how i feel about 'crashing calories' and 'counting calories' 'eating in a deficit' etc. that isn't how any animals on earth eat unless they are 1. living with humans or 2. in zoos. and ironically those animals are the most psychologicall damaged and sick animals of all living in captivity and depending on humans to survive. our pets at home are all depressed, anxious, obese, and end up with sicknesses like cancer and heart disease not found in nature.

    stick to fasting protocols, cycling your foods/calories, and focusing on types of calories not amount ALWAYS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetblast View Post
    Iíve been trying to do some research on this. Iím on Week 8 of 12 of a cut on test and NPP (NPP introduced at week 4). I know NPP isnít popular for cutting, but the results are very fitting for my goals. Very happy so far; truly amazing compound.

    Objective:
    Minimize lipogenesis and retain as much LBM as possible as I back out of the diet; and to be at a maintenance diet at the most appropriate time while concluding a cycle.

    Question:
    Is it best to reverse / start ramping calories back up while still on cycle, or wait to do that in PCT? I have 4 weeks left. Shall I start to slowly eat more now, or keep dieting hard until PCT, then introduce the reverse diet?

    ó

    I will run the Perfect PCT, all of it is ready to go as prescribed by this forum.

    Since during PCT it is often fraught with a serious unwanted catabolism and lipogenesis period (hence the perfect PCT to mitigate these factors), diet would seem to be a huge part in mitigating as well and is cause for concern as to how to best approach my diet while exiting this cycle that has yielded amazing results.

    You all are the pros here... whatís the right answer?
    bro it normal to lose some gains in pct. you don't keep everything. don't stress about it

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    If you are trying to cut or keep fat off, I find just eating in a window of 4-5 hours per day to be the best. I don't think reverse dieting is a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyMonster34 View Post
    bro it normal to lose some gains in pct. you don't keep everything. don't stress about it
    100% and something I've addressed repeatedly.

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    I dont think you shpuod ever be in a defecit while trying to recover, so I would recommend maintenance calories in pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock View Post
    I dont think you shpuod ever be in a defecit while trying to recover, so I would recommend maintenance calories in pct
    Thx brutha.

    Thatís what I was hypothesizing. I was going to pull myself slowly out of the deficit while on cycle, to have reached maintenance at PCT.

    I did last time, but I wasnít sure if that was the best protocol, or if I was shorting myself. Iíve never done this professionally, or competed while on gear (not competing now, either). So, this is new to me in regards to nutrition v cycling... if I cut this hard while natural, my lifts would have died and Iíd be 12 lbs lighter. I maintained weight for the most part and my lifts have gone through the roof. More so now that I added NPP this time. So itís uncharted territory for me.

    Thx for the replies, everyone.

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