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    Cycle to TRT/SARMS

    As a preface to past aas experience i've done a couple test/dbol cycles in the past with great results.

    Just finishing last couple weeks of 500 test and 250 deca. Cycle was 16 weeks. All went well, made some nice fairly lean gains which was the goal. Blood work good throughout. No deca sides. Original plan was to pct off after 16 weeks using the pct schedule laid out in the stickys. Already have everything on hand. My test was on the very low end of normal before the cycle (doc hesitant to look into TRT because still in range) so I may instead of dropping off totally, just drop the deca and go to 175+/- a week of test and tune it in with blood work and feeling. Couple questions going forward.

    1-Since i'm not coming off totally i shouldn't need pct but want to drop a few % BF. If bloods continue to be good at next test could I add in some SARMS for cutting purposes? If so what would the stack/dosage suggestion be? How long after current cycle is complete to start? I have 2 bottles of HCGenerate. Should I use it anywhere either ending this cycle or in conjunction with the SARMS? Never used the product before so not 100% sure of all it's potential.
    I've used MK2866 and RAD140 in the past with good results but I feel that's more of a bulking stack?

    2-If my self prescribed TRT test goes well, what is the best route to go the legal route? Come off everything completely for a time and let test drop to below normal? Is an endo better to speak with than my primary?

    3-After dropping the test to much lower level is estrogen anything to worry about? I haven't been taking any AI during the cycle and haven't had any symptoms.

    Thanks in advance.

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    There's a bit of confusion between needing an ai and having low levels of test and then going onto a self prescribed TRT. Plus you're only at the lower end so you're thinking of ''TRT'' more for the feels

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    So wait you didnít need any AI running 500mg/week test and your estrogen was in healthy range?

    As for coming off completely itís up to you. My test levels are in the 375ish range naturally and I still pct. Free test though is in the middle of the healthy range. I feel pretty good about to hit 40 years old so it really comes down to how do you feel at your normal levels? If you feel like crap then I would say you could pct and then get levels tested again. If a primary and endocrinologist wonít prescribe trt you can go to a trt clinic as a last resort just donít fall into their bullshit of pushing products. Depending on how your body metabolizes test a dose between 100mg-150mg/week should be sufficient to get you into the healthy range.

    You do not want to have to use an AI on trt. Also you donít need hcg unless trying to have a kid. From there once you have your trt script you can do a lot of things.

    You could stack an oral or another I injectable from time to time or even better run a sarms stack.

    Lot of options but Iíd try to get a script if you can.

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    Thanks for the responses. Well obviously test and estro levels are elevated currently as still on but doc knows what Im doing(doesnt agree with it) and is ok where bloodwork is so far.
    The reason im thinking self prescribe to start is so i can see how i feel once test levels are mid to upper range. Before this cycle and for the last couple years Iíve felt like crap all the time but since levels were still in range the doc would not do anything.
    Was planning on another cycle late this year so was thinking drop back to trt levels in the interim to see if it helps me before pushing the issue again with the primary.
    Im 42 currently and once i hit 39 or so i could def tell the difference in how i felt day to day.
    As far as the stopping the cycle and dropping to lower levels if test, ive never done this before. Always did pct then took a brake so im asking for advice on how to do this and what i can do to drop the little bit if body fat im putting on during the cycle. Just diet or if bloods stay good can i start on sarms to cut?
    Sorry for the novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.gentz View Post
    As a preface to past aas experience i've done a couple test/dbol cycles in the past with great results.

    Just finishing last couple weeks of 500 test and 250 deca. Cycle was 16 weeks. All went well, made some nice fairly lean gains which was the goal. Blood work good throughout. No deca sides. Original plan was to pct off after 16 weeks using the pct schedule laid out in the stickys. Already have everything on hand. My test was on the very low end of normal before the cycle (doc hesitant to look into TRT because still in range) so I may instead of dropping off totally, just drop the deca and go to 175+/- a week of test and tune it in with blood work and feeling. Couple questions going forward.

    1-Since i'm not coming off totally i shouldn't need pct but want to drop a few % BF. If bloods continue to be good at next test could I add in some SARMS for cutting purposes? If so what would the stack/dosage suggestion be? How long after current cycle is complete to start? I have 2 bottles of HCGenerate. Should I use it anywhere either ending this cycle or in conjunction with the SARMS? Never used the product before so not 100% sure of all it's potential.
    I've used MK2866 and RAD140 in the past with good results but I feel that's more of a bulking stack?

    2-If my self prescribed TRT test goes well, what is the best route to go the legal route? Come off everything completely for a time and let test drop to below normal? Is an endo better to speak with than my primary?

    3-After dropping the test to much lower level is estrogen anything to worry about? I haven't been taking any AI during the cycle and haven't had any symptoms.

    Thanks in advance.
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    I have all of the pct supplies from the sticky. Would it make sense to run any of it aside from the gw?

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    None I can think of at the moment. Finally got some time to listen to a couple podcasts. Good stuff!! Great info. So glad I found this site. There is a lot of crummy info out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.gentz View Post
    I have all of the pct supplies from the sticky. Would it make sense to run any of it aside from the gw?

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    None I can think of at the moment. Finally got some time to listen to a couple podcasts. Good stuff!! Great info. So glad I found this site. There is a lot of crummy info out there.

    The podcast is certainly worth the time to listen, I can say without a doubt Sr9009 and GW501516 are my absolute favorite for cutting, the level and speed at which it transforms the ability to push the limits of what the body can handle is like a cheat code as I call it.

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    If you do decide to self-prescribe TRT my advice is to pin as reequently as possible. At minimum twice per week. Your body produces testosterone every day so if you are trying to replace what your body does than you see the point. You will not have any estrogen issues if your test dose gets you in the high normal range and you are pinning frequently. I would start with 100mg per week and see where that gets you. Do not start too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masonic Bodybuilder View Post
    If you do decide to self-prescribe TRT my advice is to pin as reequently as possible. At minimum twice per week. Your body produces testosterone every day so if you are trying to replace what your body does than you see the point. You will not have any estrogen issues if your test dose gets you in the high normal range and you are pinning frequently. I would start with 100mg per week and see where that gets you. Do not start too high.
    Got it. Thanks!

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