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ED despite perfect estrogen labs ?

BulkMan360

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Hi guys,

My cycle is currently 750 mg test-e and 500 mg deca.

My estrogen was high as I was slacking with the AI doses, but no symptoms other than softer than usual erections, so I took two 1 mg arimidex tabs on the first day, and then 1 mg ED for a few days to bring it down quickly.

Did Estradiol labs yesterday, my number was 27 pg/ml... which is perfectly in range.

Yet I feel like I have a limp cock, can’t get it hard.

Why the hell do I have ED with estradiol dialled in perfectly? Should I take my E lower or let it come up higher ?

Maybe it’s elevated progesterone from the Deca ?
 
I guess the theory that running test higher than deca didn't come to fruition. why not try my idea that works 100% of the time. lower the test dose and add proviron to the cycle. the reason? nandrolone converts to Dihydronandrolone in the body which swamps dihydrotestosterone. so to balance this run a DHT deriviative like proviron

you will feel better
 
I guess the theory that running test higher than deca didn't come to fruition. why not try my idea that works 100% of the time. lower the test dose and add proviron to the cycle. the reason? nandrolone converts to Dihydronandrolone in the body which swamps dihydrotestosterone. so to balance this run a DHT deriviative like proviron

you will feel better
What would you lower test to? 400ish?
 
Hi guys,

My cycle is currently 750 mg test-e and 500 mg deca.

My estrogen was high as I was slacking with the AI doses, but no symptoms other than softer than usual erections, so I took two 1 mg arimidex tabs on the first day, and then 1 mg ED for a few days to bring it down quickly.

Did Estradiol labs yesterday, my number was 27 pg/ml... which is perfectly in range.

Yet I feel like I have a limp cock, can’t get it hard.

Why the hell do I have ED with estradiol dialled in perfectly? Should I take my E lower or let it come up higher ?

Maybe it’s elevated progesterone from the Deca ?
Hey man sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But I know a guy that had to get a implant after a decca cycle! Watch the anabolic doc he said Ed is not caused by high prolactin or e2 it’s because decca messes with your arteries and can cause a venous leak! Tren is a much better alternative the only way it causes Ed is because when u get off you t levels plummet so hard but that can be fixed with trt! I know guys who have Ed for years after decca even on trt and viagra! Decca can cause perment dysfunction it’s the only steroid that can cause a venous leak!
 
What would you lower test to? 400ish?

believe it or not it is better to run the test as low as possible. the key is using proviron with it

running test high with deca will just spike estrogen, let the deca run wild.

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Hey man sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But I know a guy that had to get a implant after a decca cycle! Watch the anabolic doc he said Ed is not caused by high prolactin or e2 it’s because decca messes with your arteries and can cause a venous leak! Tren is a much better alternative the only way it causes Ed is because when u get off you t levels plummet so hard but that can be fixed with trt! I know guys who have Ed for years after decca even on trt and viagra! Decca can cause perment dysfunction it’s the only steroid that can cause a venous leak!

that is a major reach on his part considering deca is the exact same structurally as testosterone aside from 1 atom. hell deca will even show up on bloodwork as testosterone. so if his theory was correct then testosterone could give you a venous leak too. that guy loves to spew theories left and right with no backing just to get views, i wouldn't trust a thing he says.
 
Isn't running higher test than deca an actual recipe for chemical castration or is that just some scare myth i've read?
Personally i'm never touching another 19-nor ever again...
 
im definitely not a fan of running test higher than deca... i generally keep them equal myself but there's no need to be running high test with deca... neither of them needs to be ran more than 400 mg each and thats top end... 300/300 is excellent for results with very little side effects
 
Don't do over 300mg for deca and run at least that much test and you should be fine. My opinion comes from cruising and blasting deca for quite a while as well as numerous friends who all go to the same doc which is where we get the deca from. I broke my rule at the end of last year and did 400 for a while. After I came off I couldn't get an erection for 24 hours and couldnt climax for 3 or 4 days. Went back to normal after that but that's a scary feeling. The only times I've had trouble having an orgasm was from exceeding 300. 300 and under improves my libido. My results are also the same at 200 as they are at 400 so I don't see any reason to go much above 200.
 
Watch the anabolic doc!

believe it or not it is better to run the test as low as possible. the key is using proviron with it

running test high with deca will just spike estrogen, let the deca run wild.

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that is a major reach on his part considering deca is the exact same structurally as testosterone aside from 1 atom. hell deca will even show up on bloodwork as testosterone. so if his theory was correct then testosterone could give you a venous leak too. that guy loves to spew theories left and right with no backing just to get views, i wouldn't trust a thing he says.

Lol if someone is having Ed after perfect levels u explain the cause there a plenty of people who claim to have perment Ed from decca for up to years! On reddit a guy posted on the forum he has Ed for 5 years after decca! At the end of the day if his levels are perfect he is taking Cialis why isn’t his dick working and who would even wanna take that chance! If someone has had Ed for years from a steroid no way I would touch it! And if ur testing the waters for yourself and it’s giving you Ed! Why would you continue! Lol a wise roid head once said people on steroid forums are idiots and never take advice from someone who has run multiple cycles and still looks natty! I have Ed still and what help have you guys gave me other than go back to having low t and get off shits a joke no doctor is gonna treat someone for Ed they just give you ciallis and if that doesn’t work they check for other shit!
 
Lol if someone is having Ed after perfect levels u explain the cause there a plenty of people who claim to have perment Ed from decca for up to years! On reddit a guy posted on the forum he has Ed for 5 years after decca! At the end of the day if his levels are perfect he is taking Cialis why isn’t his dick working and who would even wanna take that chance! If someone has had Ed for years from a steroid no way I would touch it! And if ur testing the waters for yourself and it’s giving you Ed! Why would you continue! Lol a wise roid head once said people on steroid forums are idiots and never take advice from someone who has run multiple cycles and still looks natty! I have Ed still and what help have you guys gave me other than go back to having low t and get off shits a joke no doctor is gonna treat someone for Ed they just give you ciallis and if that doesn’t work they check for other shit!

Exactly this.
 
All doctors care about is money!

Exactly this.

If they test you for something and find out you have clogged arteries not much they can do other than change your life! They will give you ciallis cause its a 120 per 2 pills which is big buck for them in the long run! Doctors don’t care about Ed they just right you a prescription for ciallis and that’s there monthly 1000 plus dollars!

Some people just don’t react well to decca there are plenty of stories of people severe Ed from decca with everything perfect there’s a old saying from the 80s decca dick nightmare if something is not working stop your only gonna do more damage to yourself! Your playing the knife game with you erections you stabbed yourself(instead of stopping u get a smaller knife)but your finger hasn’t come off yet once it does there’s no coming back!

people who tell u lower dose no just find a new compound there are people who run higher doses and have no problems so your just a bad responder your only gonna do more damage to yourself by keeping decca in your system like I said decca is the only steroid that can cause perment erectile dysfunction do you research there are plenty of people who never recover! If there a multiple people saying something caused them severe Ed why would you try and play with fire when you already burnt yourself! Give it up bro decca is not worth it! Just my two sense why continue when your already experience the negatives sides don’t make the problem worse! Why even take the chance when there’s better alternatives!
 
Don't do over 300mg for deca and run at least that much test and you should be fine. My opinion comes from cruising and blasting deca for quite a while as well as numerous friends who all go to the same doc which is where we get the deca from. I broke my rule at the end of last year and did 400 for a while. After I came off I couldn't get an erection for 24 hours and couldnt climax for 3 or 4 days. Went back to normal after that but that's a scary feeling. The only times I've had trouble having an orgasm was from exceeding 300. 300 and under improves my libido. My results are also the same at 200 as they are at 400 so I don't see any reason to go much above 200.

You are having high estrogen and high prolactin.
Thats why you can't climax 100%.
 
Proviron is needed with nandrolone. My dick is hard more than not. My wife can confirm!
 
Doesn’t deca raise progesterone, just like how Finasteride does? This could account for the ED. Why do finasteride users get permanent ED then? You can’t say progesterone causes arterial issues since it’s a female hormone and females are LESS likely than men to have cardiac problems if anything.

I’m open to looking at venous leak being a potential cause but can you point me to any sources? As far as I remember the Anabolic Doc’s vid of deca dick only talked about hormonal causes of ED from Deca.
 
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