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    Estrogen insensitivity...

    Not to be mistaken by estrogen sensitivity.

    Just noticed for a while now, I only use 250 test and non aromatising gear, and 500mcg hcg mon/Thursday.
    But if I run out of hcg I get fuckin sore knees, dry glands on dick, basically low estrogen symptoms and I don't use an ai at all.

    Iv noticed this trend over the last couple years. I'll be seeing a endocrinologist to get to the bottom of it, running tren right and the GP'S here in Australia know nothing about LC/MS or anything for that matter.

    Some people on trt with estrogrn INsensitivity actually require like transdermal estrogen. Anyway, I'll see my endo, get to the bottom of it.

    Just a very strange thing... Like I can take 8 blue hearts for several days, drop it down to 3o to 4o for a week of two. Feel great. No ai. Then when I drop the blue hearts get smashed with low estrogen symptoms like sore knees,very dry flaky skin on glands on dick ect.
    My body has changed over the 6 years blasting/cruising.
    Could be somthing else to do with thyroid idk. So any pointers hit me up. But deff will be seeing my endocrinologist

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrywho View Post
    Not to be mistaken by estrogen sensitivity.

    Just noticed for a while now, I only use 250 test and non aromatising gear, and 500mcg hcg mon/Thursday.
    But if I run out of hcg I get fuckin sore knees, dry glands on dick, basically low estrogen symptoms and I don't use an ai at all.

    Iv noticed this trend over the last couple years. I'll be seeing a endocrinologist to get to the bottom of it, running tren right and the GP'S here in Australia know nothing about LC/MS or anything for that matter.

    Some people on trt with estrogrn INsensitivity actually require like transdermal estrogen. Anyway, I'll see my endo, get to the bottom of it.

    Just a very strange thing... Like I can take 8 blue hearts for several days, drop it down to 3o to 4o for a week of two. Feel great. No ai. Then when I drop the blue hearts get smashed with low estrogen symptoms like sore knees,very dry flaky skin on glands on dick ect.
    My body has changed over the 6 years blasting/cruising.
    Could be somthing else to do with thyroid idk. So any pointers hit me up. But deff will be seeing my endocrinologist
    the problem now for you is that tren can completely skew estrogen numbers so you likely wont get an accurate reading... its hard to say just from the outside looking in man.. i would say its doubtful its low estrogen but ive also seen stranger circumstances... clearly its not something very common but it doesnt mean its impossible either

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    Yeh well said!

    The plan is to wait till tren is finished, and get bloods done. Maintain hcg and test exactly ect..
    Ultimately, seeing the GP in Australia the blood tests are free, by they skimp out on what's getting tested.

    I like to at least evey now and then see a specialist/endo, that knows exactly that they are doing, that runs a full blood panel.

    Yeh could be nothing... But it's deff time I saw my endo to get a proper opinion and general check from a specialist. I'll wait for tren to clear that's for sure before bloods.

    Thanks.

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    Blue hearts are...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    Blue hearts are...?
    Straight outta pattaya thailand!!

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    Ohh are... They are danabol DS, 10MG dianabol. In the shape of blue hearts. Come in bottles of 500. Prob the best dbol u can get.
    Manufactured by march pharmaceuticals distributed by body research Co... All thailand. 1 bottle costs approx 60 bucks au in the pharmacy.
    Some charge like 1000 bucks for 500 back in Australia.

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    Did you ever have any of these symptoms before using Steroids?


    How long has this been going on for?


    What do you mean by "sore knees", what does it actually feel like? Is it all day pain?


    Make sure your Endo knows what you are on, and you might need to get off the sauce for a while to get proper blood work done and follow this up. Joint pain that come and go are NOT to be taken lightly.

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    I did read a bit about estrogen insensitivity, and usually those who had it grew very tall in stature. I'm 6'5". Tall for a white person. I have stretch marks on my back from growing so fast as a kid. Had a dermatologists at the time take photos of that because he hadn't seen it before.( the stretch marks from growing so fast)
    And I had low T Even at 18 years old.
    So Idk somthing was prob up that never truly got discovered then I took things into my own hands.

    Hence my decision at 25 to blast/cruise for life. Currently 31.


    Though I could be looking too much into it.

    Each time iv gone to the endocrinologist iv told her everything I take, but it's been years since iv been to her, an actual specialist. But I will see her soon, go over everything in detail and get some regular bloods with her.

    Currently decided to increase my hcg from 500 mcg twice a week to 1000mcg twice a week to help increase estrogen. Again, just taking things into my own hands.
    However, clearly I want specialised advice.

    After 6 years blasting/cruising I'm pretty damn familiar with the dry skin /sore knees when estrogen gets a bit on the low side.

    Its been going on a couple years, but i manage it, so the sore knees only come about if I run out of hcg, try and take more than 250 test or dbol ect... Hence my only non aromatising cycles.

    I can't even take half a proviron without absolutely crashing my estrogen, resulting in incredibly sore knees, when I shave my face my. Skin is dry, my dick and glands skin is dry.

    And thats with home-brew test, ref range 40, my test gets like 60 or so. And Thai amps got me at about 10 points higher at 70.

    Its like a male menopause in terms of low aromatase or somthing fuk idk. Somthing changed in my body. So I'll get it check.
    But I manage quite well as long as I don't change anything much to do with estrogen... Actually I can't even take vitamin c or I end up with sore knees lower estrogen I shit u not. And yeh apparently vitamin c lowers aromatase or estrogen I forget. So some kind of super sensitivity.
    But I can still run 700 tren and tbol and non aromatising stuff fine.

    I thought maybe because the first several years blasting cruising I always did 750 test and 3 weeks 250 cruise that maybe over years the body tried to adjust that as a new normal... The body does weird shit so im clueless that's why I'll see the specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrywho View Post
    I did read a bit about estrogen insensitivity, and usually those who had it grew very tall in stature. I'm 6'5". Tall for a white person. I have stretch marks on my back from growing so fast as a kid. Had a dermatologists at the time take photos of that because he hadn't seen it before.( the stretch marks from growing so fast)
    And I had low T Even at 18 years old.
    So Idk somthing was prob up that never truly got discovered then I took things into my own hands.

    Hence my decision at 25 to blast/cruise for life. Currently 31.


    Though I could be looking too much into it.

    Each time iv gone to the endocrinologist iv told her everything I take, but it's been years since iv been to her, an actual specialist. But I will see her soon, go over everything in detail and get some regular bloods with her.

    Currently decided to increase my hcg from 500 mcg twice a week to 1000mcg twice a week to help increase estrogen. Again, just taking things into my own hands.
    However, clearly I want specialised advice.

    After 6 years blasting/cruising I'm pretty damn familiar with the dry skin /sore knees when estrogen gets a bit on the low side.

    Its been going on a couple years, but i manage it, so the sore knees only come about if I run out of hcg, try and take more than 250 test or dbol ect... Hence my only non aromatising cycles.

    I can't even take half a proviron without absolutely crashing my estrogen, resulting in incredibly sore knees, when I shave my face my. Skin is dry, my dick and glands skin is dry.

    And thats with home-brew test, ref range 40, my test gets like 60 or so. And Thai amps got me at about 10 points higher at 70.

    Its like a male menopause in terms of low aromatase or somthing fuk idk. Somthing changed in my body. So I'll get it check.
    But I manage quite well as long as I don't change anything much to do with estrogen... Actually I can't even take vitamin c or I end up with sore knees lower estrogen I shit u not. And yeh apparently vitamin c lowers aromatase or estrogen I forget. So some kind of super sensitivity.
    But I can still run 700 tren and tbol and non aromatising stuff fine.

    I thought maybe because the first several years blasting cruising I always did 750 test and 3 weeks 250 cruise that maybe over years the body tried to adjust that as a new normal... The body does weird shit so im clueless that's why I'll see the specialist.

    As a race we're now the tallest so... Dutch as a nation (used to be the US and Brits). The world record was a Yank.

    And if you think about it a lot of height is growth hormone related over test or estrogen. I used to get pains in my femurs when I shot up from 5'8 to 6'3 from age 15 to 18. Now that's part test (my balls dropping) and a LOT of natural GH lol
    Last edited by Mobster; 12-15-2019 at 04:22 PM.

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