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Extremely high liver enzymes - Help

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I was taking dbol at 30mg/day for 8-10 weeks. Yes, that’s a little longer than recommended, but wasn’t too concerned being only 30mg. Very little alcohol consumption. Maybe 3-4 times. Last week I started feeling some discomfort in my liver region. Not pain, just a very vague ache. Developed slight jaundice and went and had bloodwork (hapatic panel). Have been off dbol for two weeks.
Anyone have any similar experience or guidance? Will the enzymes return to normal?
 
i guess im lost... what do you mean "ONLY" 30 mg... thats your problem right there... thats way too long... i never recommend going over 4 weeks but saying only just shows right there man... you should expect to have a fucked up liver with that kind of use
 
No alcohol with orals bro and definitely not 8-10 weeks. Enzymes will return to normal if you haven't done permanent damage. It really depends on how many times you've abused orals like this.
 
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Also, this is the only time I’ve ever been on this long. I had bloodwork done about 3 months ago and everything was fine.

I admit that I was stupid to stay on that long. I seldom use orals, and will never do this again. Lesson learned.

As far as me saying “only 30mg,” I get that’s a poor way to look at it. I’ve just always been told that 50mg and over was considered a high dose. Again, lesson learned.
 
I don’t want to alarm you but those numbers are wild. Your liver is beat the fuck up. You shouldn’t touch orals anymore until you get this back under control

Order yourself some Liv52, TUDCA, and Milk Thistle.

Take two Liv52 in AM & two in the PM.
500mg TUDCA AM & PM
500mg milk thistle AM & PM

Do this for 1-2 months. Then wait another month and get labs done again. See if that helped lower your enzymes. If not you might want to see a specialist. And I wouldn’t touch alcohol anymore
 
I don’t want to alarm you but those numbers are wild. Your liver is beat the fuck up. You shouldn’t touch orals anymore until you get this back under control

Order yourself some Liv52, TUDCA, and Milk Thistle.

Take two Liv52 in AM & two in the PM.
500mg TUDCA AM & PM
500mg milk thistle AM & PM

Do this for 1-2 months. Then wait another month and get labs done again. See if that helped lower your enzymes. If not you might want to see a specialist. And I wouldn’t touch alcohol anymore

I will do that. Thank you for your feedback.
 
why are you drinking alcohol in the first place? it will beat up your liver on its own.

i've argued this with people on forums for years, alcohol does NOT belong in the body. it is poison and it is completely counter productive. the dummies that argue this point with me never ran bloodwork once in their life or they would see this in black and white. if your liver does not get taken care of you will end up completely destroying your entire body from A to Z. just imagine the pipes in your home getting blocked and the sewage backing up into your house and piling up. well that is what you are doing here

come off all hormones, drugs, alccohol everything. take n2guard and fast as much as possible
 
i guess im lost... what do you mean "ONLY" 30 mg... thats your problem right there... thats way too long... i never recommend going over 4 weeks but saying only just shows right there man... you should expect to have a fucked up liver with that kind of use

I've been perfectly fine at 30mg for 8 weeks. I did note he doesn't mention using any liver protectors like Tudca etc.
 
If you take steroids you should never drink alcool , athlete or drunk boy you chose? This is very high levels , stop all orals and eat clean foods like fish , rice, apple, olive oil and drink alot water. Take liv52, silimarin , nac, green tea, and coline inositol and l metionine combo is the best
 
Even allowing for time on the orals (subject to debate) those numbers are WTF high!! As in go clean. Get N2Guard and get another blood test high. As in maybe, just maybe, there's another issue and you wanna double check.
 
You dont need to disclose but not just alcohol combined with oral steroids can beat up your liver.

Are you taking any prescription meds? Advil, aspirin, etc?

I mean those are super high man as stated above you need to stop taking anything, def no alcohol, and run some liver support supplements like listed above. Lots of water too.

As long as there isnt another underlying issue they should return to normal values. Ive had my ALT and AST creep up before while on cycles but those are super high I wouldnt even hit 100 on either ALT or AST maybe 50-60 max and even then I was monitoring.
 
This is indicative of the advice people get on message boards. ONLY 30 mgs. NOT that long! ONLY a fe drinks. You;re kidding your self. 30 mgs is a big hit. Pros don't take that much. And 8 weeks is TWICE as long as any oral cyc;le should be. I won't even address the drinking.

Sure, some people THINK they did fine with that approach, but trust me, they're doing damage to themselves. And this is why steroid use has the rep that it does. You have some people who realize how powerful they are and treat them with respect and then you have those who have no idea. This is why people die of drug overdoses. Not one of them ever thought they were overdoing it.

Get of of everything and buy three bottles of N2GUARD. NOW.
 
UPDATE
First, let me say that I sincerely appreciate everyone’s feedback. Nothing can legitimately excuse what I did, but perhaps a little more context would be appropriate.

Issue 1 - Alcohol:
I should have been more clear about this. There have been at least 2, and possibly 3 occasions that I had a glass of wine while on a dinner date with my lady. Some of you evidently have the impression that I’m popping dbols with one hand, and slugging whiskey with the other. Sorry, but no.

Issue 2 - cycle length/dosage:
I average a cycle of dbol about every 1.5 to 2 years. Each time, I do 6 wks @ 30mg/day with great results and essentially no elevated liver enzymes. Once they were 2-3 units above normal. I had my enzymes checked prior to this most recent cycle, and they were normal. I was making great gains, and decided to run the dbol 2 more weeks than usual. It was 2 weeks after my last dose that I started having signs/symptoms that something wasn’t right with my liver. I scheduled some bloodwork, got the results, and was obviously shocked that an additional 2 weeks could have been so detrimental.


I have ordered all of the supplements that have been suggested, and I will follow up with more bloodwork in 2 weeks then go from there. If no improvement, then I will have no choice but see a doctor.

Thanks again for all of your help.
 
...I have ordered all of the supplements that have been suggested, and I will follow up with more bloodwork in 2 weeks then go from there. If no improvement, then I will have no choice but see a doctor...

I’d at least take the supplements for a month, then get labs done. 2 weeks isn’t long enough
 
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