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    Finishing up first cycle....looking foward

    I am on my last week of 500mg/WK test E

    I am up over #30. I used this to bulk and was in a surplus however my BF didnt get out of control, which was good.

    Took a bit to find the right AI dose for me. But once I nailed it things flowed nicely. Finished with var but didnt time it correctly so I have 1 week left of that. Might just extend the E to 13wks to finish

    So I have a couple of options going further.

    I have enough test e to cruise for the next 10 weeks if I wanted to, I also have perfect PCT and a triple stack to PCT and bridge.

    I want to run Halo next cycle coupled with a low dose of test. I have E and C. itll be 5 weeks cycle, would Prop be better? what about adding Primo to the mix? Overkill?

    Would it be better to PCT and bridge -OR- just cruise for 8-10 Weeks?

    Secondary question: Those of you who cruise, do you use an AI? do you wait or just drop the T dose the next week?

    As you can probably see im an indecisive person and though I have been studying and reading for close to a year on all this I still concider myself noobs.....All suggestions welcome.

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    I'd suggest the PCT and recover man, you are already contemplating staying on for 23 weeks? Not only will that fuck up a lot of things hormonal and health wise but it's going to limit the gains you make on your next cycle.. Take the necessary time off and recover properly unless you really want to cruise, but I just don't see the point being in your position.

    Also, Halo is extremely overrated man I'm not sure why you would want this unless you are either a powerlifter or precontest, which you are neither. And if you plan to run a 6 weeks burst or whatever, of course your going to use prop over E or C ! Primo also takes a long time to build in the system unless you are using primo ace, but even so I don't see the point in this little 6 week cycle?

    I'm just giving my opinion on what I think is best for your health and your future gains. You clearly have the urge to cruise but it's up to you and your goals and body.. And some guys cruise with a low dose AI , usually aromasin, some cruise with proviron or masteron, and some don't really need an AI, everyone is different

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSnow View Post
    I'd suggest the PCT and recover man, you are already contemplating staying on for 23 weeks? Not only will that fuck up a lot of things hormonal and health wise but it's going to limit the gains you make on your next cycle.. Take the necessary time off and recover properly unless you really want to cruise, but I just don't see the point being in your position.

    Also, Halo is extremely overrated man I'm not sure why you would want this unless you are either a powerlifter or precontest, which you are neither. And if you plan to run a 6 weeks burst or whatever, of course your going to use prop over E or C ! Primo also takes a long time to build in the system unless you are using primo ace, but even so I don't see the point in this little 6 week cycle?

    I'm just giving my opinion on what I think is best for your health and your future gains. You clearly have the urge to cruise but it's up to you and your goals and body.. And some guys cruise with a low dose AI , usually aromasin, some cruise with proviron or masteron, and some don't really need an AI, everyone is different
    Right on.

    I am actually leaning toward PCT and triple stack. But I have the gear so I figured why not throw the option on.

    I am an Olympic Weightlifter. Halo was actually they first thing that was ever recommended to me for the sheer strength gains, but I didn't want to get into something like that on the first go.

    My health comes first, like i said im indecisive. I usually just need a little kick in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themessemger View Post
    Right on.

    I am actually leaning toward PCT and triple stack. But I have the gear so I figured why not throw the option on.

    I am an Olympic Weightlifter. Halo was actually they first thing that was ever recommended to me for the sheer strength gains, but I didn't want to get into something like that on the first go.

    My health comes first, like i said im indecisive. I usually just need a little kick in the right direction.
    Nice, if you do decide to run Halo ( assuming you haven't before ) then you need to take serious caution. Shit literally eats your liver, I think there are better options for pure strength. Halos anabolic rating is extremely misleading in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSnow View Post
    Nice, if you do decide to run Halo ( assuming you haven't before ) then you need to take serious caution. Shit literally eats your liver, I think there are better options for pure strength. Halos anabolic rating is extremely misleading in my opinion
    Ive never run it no, but i have a good supply of liver gaurd and tudca.

    As for better options, what do you suggest?.

    After I cut ill be at the top end of my weight class. I cant afford to add much in terms of mass. Another reason I was leaning toward it

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    Are you competing or doing a meet? If not skip the halo and run perfect pct. No reason to cruise unless you are competitive in a sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themessemger View Post
    I am on my last week of 500mg/WK test E

    I am up over #30. I used this to bulk and was in a surplus however my BF didnt get out of control, which was good.

    Took a bit to find the right AI dose for me. But once I nailed it things flowed nicely. Finished with var but didnt time it correctly so I have 1 week left of that. Might just extend the E to 13wks to finish

    So I have a couple of options going further.

    I have enough test e to cruise for the next 10 weeks if I wanted to, I also have perfect PCT and a triple stack to PCT and bridge.

    I want to run Halo next cycle coupled with a low dose of test. I have E and C. itll be 5 weeks cycle, would Prop be better? what about adding Primo to the mix? Overkill?

    Would it be better to PCT and bridge -OR- just cruise for 8-10 Weeks?

    Secondary question: Those of you who cruise, do you use an AI? do you wait or just drop the T dose the next week?

    As you can probably see im an indecisive person and though I have been studying and reading for close to a year on all this I still concider myself noobs.....All suggestions welcome.
    Being your first cycle, I would suggest PCT and recover. Either end your cycle after 12 weeks or extend it an extra week and then start your PCT. I know how amazing it feels to be on and no one wants to come off but it needs to be done. It's all kinda about '2 steps forward, 1 step back'. Finish your cycle, run the perfect PCT protocol, take some time off and then plan out your next cycle.

    Yes continue to use an AI for a few weeks once you stop your cycle. Use the AI as it is listed in the perfect PCT protocol.

    If you are cruising on a TRT dose, yes it's important to still use an AI. Although at a lower dosage then on your cycle. 12.5mg E3D of aromasin would be good for a TRT dosage.

    Start slow and slowly progress you way up. For your next cycle use testosterone + one other compound. For your third cycle, use testosterone + one other compound + an oral, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themessemger View Post
    Ive never run it no, but i have a good supply of liver gaurd and tudca.

    As for better options, what do you suggest?.

    After I cut ill be at the top end of my weight class. I cant afford to add much in terms of mass. Another reason I was leaning toward it

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    Halo is over rated and the absolute most toxic steroid you can put into your body.

    I would suggest 30mg/day of dbol or tbol instead. You will get similar strength gains with MUCH LESS side effects. Make sure you are using a liver/organ aid when using oral steroids. N2guard from n2bm.com is the best overall organ aid on the market and what I recommend.

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    I would rather do the PCT, and then bridge with the SARMs triple stack. It is good for the body to have some time to get recovered, and get a little stressed with the change of substances.

    Also, I agree with @muskate - tbol is a much better option to halo. Much safer, and yet quite effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themessemger View Post
    I am on my last week of 500mg/WK test E

    I am up over #30. I used this to bulk and was in a surplus however my BF didnt get out of control, which was good.

    Took a bit to find the right AI dose for me. But once I nailed it things flowed nicely. Finished with var but didnt time it correctly so I have 1 week left of that. Might just extend the E to 13wks to finish

    So I have a couple of options going further.

    I have enough test e to cruise for the next 10 weeks if I wanted to, I also have perfect PCT and a triple stack to PCT and bridge.

    I want to run Halo next cycle coupled with a low dose of test. I have E and C. itll be 5 weeks cycle, would Prop be better? what about adding Primo to the mix? Overkill?

    Would it be better to PCT and bridge -OR- just cruise for 8-10 Weeks?

    Secondary question: Those of you who cruise, do you use an AI? do you wait or just drop the T dose the next week?

    As you can probably see im an indecisive person and though I have been studying and reading for close to a year on all this I still concider myself noobs.....All suggestions welcome.
    do a pct then recover. best option

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