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Getting pregnant while staying on TRT

the only benefit is you keep your nuts plump

the negatives are you lose $$$, you increase estrogen, you are using a hormone unnecessarily.

any sort of additional benefit like libido or ejaculation load is temporary

if you are on TRT your doctor puts you on either they are just trying to steal your $$$, in fact ask them why you need it and i would love to hear their rationale
hCG mimics LH. hMG mimics LH and also raises FSH...as long as you still have sufficient testosterone, the spermatogenesis cycle is stimulated into producing more sperm cells

You're right it is expensive, but that's cause I bought it online instead of going through a doctor and using insurance. Insurance definitely would have helped, but didn't want to wait for it to be approved, trt through insurance only runs me $80/yr.

Back to the hMG though I've used it twice, once I came off entirely, the second time I was still on over a gram of test per wk (and hCG, clomid, and aromasin as well).

You're right it's only temporary, but I only need to be fertile for the short while to get the wife pregnant. Both times resulted in pregnancies and had my sperm count close to 450mil (162mil/mL).

I can't say the hormones were used unnecessarily, if they did exactly what I needed them to do. A short term fix... will be using it again, as the wife still wants more babies.
 
Hey all

Thanks for replies

Am very confused and know online always would be. As so many different opinions

Going to keep it to the professionals as have spoken to a urologist

He works with guys that have heavily used AAS and has clients he has had results with.

Had a SKPE consultation.

So far these are just his suggestions but waiting blood work and proper consultation.
As some have mentioned he is saying if have free test still in me and looking at trying to get pregnant in 6 - 12 months he says to get on HCg and clomid. Doses are dependant on where i am at and wieght and all those variables.
Adding HMG at the time of trying would help but is costly and wants to see if can get any where with the HCG and Clomid protocol.

Have loads of things to check out as is results/ evidence that it works so going to go through it all and see what I can find and get the bloods done and consult with urologist. If not happy with what is said or doesn't work will be coming off completely or looking for a new bird! Lol

But just a few comments. I was suggested TRT by a doctor as have low test levels. It helped me massively and I cope better with it and small amounts.

No doctor has said I have to go on it.

Also the urologist has come through a friend/ trainer and he is helping me as a mutual friend. He certainly isn't making a load of money out of me. But has worked with some decent names in the fitness industry and has a very good reputation.

I have mentioned his name as he doesn't want it mentioning on forum boards!

But am going to seek his advice and if find sufficient evidence to back it up will try his suggestions. If all good will let you know what worked.
 
I have seen to different endocrinologists before, one was old and wow completely hopeless... I walked out after an argument and didn't pay.

The other was a younger woman with a much more recent up to date qualifications. She was and endocrinologist specialising in fertility.

She told me trt dose test, with 1500iu hcg twice a week for 90 days prior to even attempting to conceive. As sperm takes 90 days to actually fully develop apparently.

If after an amount of time has passed she said they then add in hmg.

Now she prescribed me hcg to use with test, as although the literature is behind, using low dose hcg to maintain a level of testicular function is beneficial. So for 5 years iv been on, iv always used 500 hcg twice a week and my balls have never shrunk or disappeared completely, which is something that will also be beneficial when it comes time to have children.

But the hcg from the peptide websites pails in comparison the pregnyl brand hcg. So I would deff get the shit prescribed and use the brand version to make the best possible sperm u can and give urself the best chance.

250iu pregnyl twice a week would have my ball's much plumper than 500 iu from premium peptides. Com
 
I have seen to different endocrinologists before, one was old and wow completely hopeless... I walked out after an argument and didn't pay.

The other was a younger woman with a much more recent up to date qualifications. She was and endocrinologist specialising in fertility.

She told me trt dose test, with 1500iu hcg twice a week for 90 days prior to even attempting to conceive. As sperm takes 90 days to actually fully develop apparently.

If after an amount of time has passed she said they then add in hmg.

Now she prescribed me hcg to use with test, as although the literature is behind, using low dose hcg to maintain a level of testicular function is beneficial. So for 5 years iv been on, iv always used 500 hcg twice a week and my balls have never shrunk or disappeared completely, which is something that will also be beneficial when it comes time to have children.

But the hcg from the peptide websites pails in comparison the pregnyl brand hcg. So I would deff get the shit prescribed and use the brand version to make the best possible sperm u can and give urself the best chance.

250iu pregnyl twice a week would have my ball's much plumper than 500 iu from premium peptides. Com



Thank you so much for this.

I will put this forward to the uroligist when have the consultation.

Sounds like he is of similar thinking.

Just a couple of questions. Was clomid never mentioned?

Also have you tried it and did it work? Lol

Thank you for the info on the HCG

Much appreciated
 
hCG mimics LH. hMG mimics LH and also raises FSH...as long as you still have sufficient testosterone, the spermatogenesis cycle is stimulated into producing more sperm cells

You're right it is expensive, but that's cause I bought it online instead of going through a doctor and using insurance. Insurance definitely would have helped, but didn't want to wait for it to be approved, trt through insurance only runs me $80/yr.

Back to the hMG though I've used it twice, once I came off entirely, the second time I was still on over a gram of test per wk (and hCG, clomid, and aromasin as well).

You're right it's only temporary, but I only need to be fertile for the short while to get the wife pregnant. Both times resulted in pregnancies and had my sperm count close to 450mil (162mil/mL).

I can't say the hormones were used unnecessarily, if they did exactly what I needed them to do. A short term fix... will be using it again, as the wife still wants more babies.

i want to be clear on this. yes it mimics LH. however it will NOT raise the bodies LH and FSH, it will lower it because it is suppressing your pit glands. it simply MIMICS those hormones and when you come off your body will be suppressed and has to recover. if you run before and during bloodwork you will see this.

also to be clear hcg and Hmg were never intended for male fertility nor are they approved for that. in fact there is nothing out there for male fertility, has not been invented yet. the only thing that has promise is vitamin E + clomid, which makes sense as both force the pituitary glands to produce hormones
 
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Thank you so much for this.

I will put this forward to the uroligist when have the consultation.

Sounds like he is of similar thinking.

Just a couple of questions. Was clomid never mentioned?

Also have you tried it and did it work? Lol

Thank you for the info on the HCG

Much appreciated

No mention of clomid at all...

I went to see her numerous times to make sure I had the correct information, specifically regarding being able to have a baby down the track cause I decided to blast + cruise.

I told her everything I was doing and steroids I'd taken. She said success is most likely with just hcg even from guys on for 10 years ect...

She prescribed me pregnyl hcg to use to maintain testicular function as I explained, and allowed me to manage it myself and use a 250iu dose twice a week. which she agreed upon. As she's also prescribed others hcg with test.
Then one time I got my bloods while on big dose of tren and my estrogen came in at 900, which was extremely hi, but a false positive. So she cut me off and now I just get it on peptide websites.

Maybe it was after she cut me off and I went to see this old endocrinologist and got in an argument about using hcg with test to maintain testicular function. He was just old, by the book, wasn't up to date with any new literature... So I walked out.

But yeh, that one fertility specialist was very up to date with information.
Because hormone treatment is waaay behind in the medical standards or whatever.
 
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