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    My first simple cycle. Thoughts?

    Hello, i'm new around in terms of forums and have decided to make a post about my upcoming first cycle!

    Stats:
    5'9, 180lbs, 13%bf approx.
    Lifting 4.5years (last 2 very serious-strict diet, 0 missed workouts, absolute love for lifting)

    Bench 240
    Squat 345
    Dead 415

    My goal is to add strength and size with a main priority of strength, really wanting to take what i look forward to every day to the next level, and enjoy it hopefully.

    Now for the planned cycle:

    wks 1-14 TestE 500mg/wk(or would 12 be sufficient for a 1st timer?)
    Adex as needed, but most likely will do .25 EOD starting on week 2
    No HCG this time, but most definitely next cycle if i choose to even have one

    PCT:
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Thoughts and feedback are welcome, thanks for checkin it out.

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    12 weeks is fine, first cycle I'd run 250mgs which is perfectly sufficient IMO, even if it is an old opinion it seems, guys here prefer aromasin but I use Arimidex as is obtainable on script with little issue just need to keep an eye on cholesterol. Just my old man opinion

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    i think 400mgs would be sufficient for first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost437 View Post
    Hello, i'm new around in terms of forums and have decided to make a post about my upcoming first cycle!

    Stats:
    5'9, 180lbs, 13%bf approx.
    Lifting 4.5years (last 2 very serious-strict diet, 0 missed workouts, absolute love for lifting)

    Bench 240
    Squat 345
    Dead 415

    My goal is to add strength and size with a main priority of strength, really wanting to take what i look forward to every day to the next level, and enjoy it hopefully.

    Now for the planned cycle:

    wks 1-14 TestE 500mg/wk(or would 12 be sufficient for a 1st timer?)
    Adex as needed, but most likely will do .25 EOD starting on week 2
    No HCG this time, but most definitely next cycle if i choose to even have one

    PCT:
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Thoughts and feedback are welcome, thanks for checkin it out.
    1. 12 weeks will be more than enough for good results.
    2. Better use Aromasin at 10-12.5 mgs EOD. You should be taking you AI from the first day of the cycle, and don't do the mistake of waiting for the side effects to appear before you start using it.
    3. Stay away from HCG - it is poisonous extract from pregnant female urine, and it may cause such side effects as guno and suppression. Better go for the HCGenerate ES - it is made of natural ingredients, and has no side effects whatsoever. Besides, it is more convenient, since there is no need for additional injections, and it is taken orally.
    4. Your PCT is pretty weak - do the perfect PCT. Remember, only with a good PCT you will be able to keep most of your gains and will have an easier time recovering from the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LevButlerov View Post
    1. 12 weeks will be more than enough for good results.
    2. Better use Aromasin at 10-12.5 mgs EOD. You should be taking you AI from the first day of the cycle, and don't do the mistake of waiting for the side effects to appear before you start using it.
    3. Stay away from HCG - it is poisonous extract from pregnant female urine, and it may cause such side effects as guno and suppression. Better go for the HCGenerate ES - it is made of natural ingredients, and has no side effects whatsoever. Besides, it is more convenient, since there is no need for additional injections, and it is taken orally.
    4. Your PCT is pretty weak - do the perfect PCT. Remember, only with a good PCT you will be able to keep most of your gains and will have an easier time recovering from the cycle.
    I agree COMPLETELY.

    Here's what I recommend:

    Weeks 1 - 10
    testosterone 500mg/week
    aromasin 12.5mg every other day
    HCGenerate 5 capsules/day

    After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perf...e-therapy-pct/

    You can order everything you need for your cycle and the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

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    Personally, I'm not a fan at all of static dosages on cycles over 6 weeks. Typical stall out happens at the 6-8 week mark. Anything after that is a waste of juice and only increases risk/return factor.

    The lower the dosage you can start from and get returns from, the better. I like to leg into ALL cycles.

    Being first cycle...starting at 300-400 is very viable. Run that until stall hits, then increase dosage. Doesn't have to be much. I've bumped as little as 50mg/wk and extended gains.

    3-400 for first 6-8 weeks, then bump to 500 remaining 4. 12 weeks total. Think you will be very happy.

    My .02

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    Are we recommending Aromasin EOD because he's using a lighter amount of test? I thought the half life was well under that which is why most use ED and EOD is used for arimidex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player1 View Post
    Are we recommending Aromasin EOD because he's using a lighter amount of test? I thought the half life was well under that which is why most use ED and EOD is used for arimidex.
    12.5 aromasin EOD should be fine. I'm a hyper-responder to test and run that same dosage regardless of ester. Then bump up from there based on symptoms or bloods. Matter fact, its easiest, or it should be, to control E on short esters as plasma levels are more constant. Again, I say "should be" assuming the injections are more frequent. As they should be, lol...

    That said...everyones body is different, and reacts differently. But, there are some very general starting points that work in most scenarios. Start there-listen to your body-to bloods-and adapt to what works for you. Myself-i feel and my body responds differently to prop eod with 12.5 aromasin, than it does with E or c every mon/Thurs with same aromasin. I have more peaks and valleys with long esters for some reason-and frankly, just don't feel as well as I do with short esters.

    Even better, go 6.25 ed...the more constant the blood levels with any substances the better. Problem is cutting tabs in quarters...lol...eod is fine.

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    My first was 12 weeks Test C at 450 per week with a 50mg Anavar kickstart. It was a fantastic experience.

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    Thanks to everyone for all the input and advice.
    I'm going to do 12 weeks and see if i should just up to 600 mg from 12-14, most likely won't. As for aromasin i've already got adex coming in the mail so i will have to stick with that.
    Ive found that a lot of people on this forum support the 'perfect pct' and hcgenerate, but elsewhere everyone says to keep it simple with the pct, especially with such a basic cycle of test. In the future however i WILL be incorporating more compounds and more pct items once i get adjusted and learn here and there along the way.

    Again thanks everyone!

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