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Hi everyone,

I’m 35 y/o male, 5’6, 185 lbs. I’ve been in the gym on and off for 10+ years. I’ve thought about getting on for a while but it just never felt right. I have run 1 cycle of SARMs however (ostarine), but thats the extent of my PED experience.

Anyway, I recently got on TRT (Test cyp 200mg + Gonadotropin 50iu weekly) with the intention of using it as an “introduction” into the world of AAS. It’s seriously amazing and when it is complete, ive decided to continue and plan on administering without MD supervision.

When I created this account few years ago, I remember spending so much time perusing through the forum, and it’s just so much information. As a matter of fact, drawing from forum searches, I had planned everything out, from cycle, PCT, supplies, etc…, but in the end bailed because I was just overwhelmed and scared.

With that said, if there any experienced users out there are willing to build a dialogue with me and also lead me to the knowledge for safe AAS practice, I’d greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!
 
Hi everyone,

I’m 35 y/o male, 5’6, 185 lbs. I’ve been in the gym on and off for 10+ years. I’ve thought about getting on for a while but it just never felt right. I have run 1 cycle of SARMs however (ostarine), but thats the extent of my PED experience.

Anyway, I recently got on TRT (Test cyp 200mg + Gonadotropin 50iu weekly) with the intention of using it as an “introduction” into the world of AAS. It’s seriously amazing and when it is complete, ive decided to continue and plan on administering without MD supervision.

When I created this account few years ago, I remember spending so much time perusing through the forum, and it’s just so much information. As a matter of fact, drawing from forum searches, I had planned everything out, from cycle, PCT, supplies, etc…, but in the end bailed because I was just overwhelmed and scared.

With that said, if there any experienced users out there are willing to build a dialogue with me and also lead me to the knowledge for safe AAS practice, I’d greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!

welcome to the evolutionary.org family! we are here to help and guide you.

Since you have sarms experience and you're on testosterone, this should be easy.

I'll lay out a simple cycle for you BUT you MUST LOG journal the cycle, diet and training, cardio supplements on EVO so we can properly guide this full cycle.

1st full cycle testosterone only IMO

You are on test cyp so let's continue the dose.

Week 1-12
TRT testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week
+ testosterone cypionate 300mgs/week (SELF cycle)
total: 500mgs testosterone cypionate/week
anavar 50mgs/ed (week 1-8)
n2guard 7caps/ed (organ liver kidney support a must)
ostarine 25mgs/ed (good for recovery and you have experience with it)
-you can add 20mgs cardarine to this but up to you

PCT: no need you're on TRT

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/s-gentz-cycle-training-log-86383.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log-86174.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/contest-peak-cycle-year-85007.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-cycle!-84662.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/summer-bulking-cycle-85543.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/lefr34k-s-training-log-85141.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/pigsy-s-training-log-83248.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/echos-hgh-log-cycle-85429.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/my-cycle-log-85538.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/dozers-journey-stage-cycle-84184.html
 
LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

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I like the NPC layout.

- - - Updated - - -

bump the test 300mgs+
add anavar 50mgs
add ostarine and cardarine

and pls dont forget to share a LOG
 
Welcome to the forum bro.

I've been on TRT for around 4 years now and I had never used AAS prior to being put on TRT.

If you really need TRT you'll see great benefits from your TRT dose for a while as long as your diet and training are in check. I'd ride that wave for a year or so and enjoy the gains. You don't mention your bodyfat but I'd get down to 12% or so before running your first blast. Being at low bodyfat will allow you to eat the way you need to in order to gain on cycle.

I'd suggest 300-500mg Test only for 12 weeks as your first cycle. With proper diet and training you should see significant gains in strength and mass.

I'm sure you've done your research so you should know, TRT is for life. After about a year, there is no turning back. It is very hard to recover natural levels after constant long term use.

You'll find a lot of great dudes on Evo and a lot of great advice. Listen to the vets here
 
If you just got on TRT being hypogonadal. I would run with that for a year.
You should make gains and feel awesome. I gained 10 lbs of muscle my first year.
After that you might try the other compounds for the desired effect. If you don't plan on competing
power or physique you might tread very carefully with the stronger compounds.

Best of luck to you!
 
welcome to the evolutionary.org family! we are here to help and guide you.

Since you have sarms experience and you're on testosterone, this should be easy.

I'll lay out a simple cycle for you BUT you MUST LOG journal the cycle, diet and training, cardio supplements on EVO so we can properly guide this full cycle.

1st full cycle testosterone only IMO

You are on test cyp so let's continue the dose.

Week 1-12
TRT testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week
+ testosterone cypionate 300mgs/week (SELF cycle)
total: 500mgs testosterone cypionate/week
anavar 50mgs/ed (week 1-8)
n2guard 7caps/ed (organ liver kidney support a must)
ostarine 25mgs/ed (good for recovery and you have experience with it)
-you can add 20mgs cardarine to this but up to you

PCT: no need you're on TRT

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/s-gentz-cycle-training-log-86383.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log-86174.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/contest-peak-cycle-year-85007.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-cycle!-84662.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/summer-bulking-cycle-85543.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/lefr34k-s-training-log-85141.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/pigsy-s-training-log-83248.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/echos-hgh-log-cycle-85429.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/my-cycle-log-85538.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/dozers-journey-stage-cycle-84184.html

Thank you for the detailed example cycle and logs. In your example, I would begin self-administering while on TRT, but few more problems/questions arise.

My initial labs: T 527 ng/dl and MD stated the goal was to have it over 800ng/dl.
labs.jpg

The TRT program:

Week 01-10: test cyp-Anastrozole 200mg-1mg/ml/once a week and gonadotropin 50 units/twice a week.
Week 11-13: gonadotropin 50 units/twice a week.
Week 14-21: completely off everything (8 week rest period).

If I self-administer the additional 300mg weekly, wouldn't my doctor find out from my post cycle labs? And if so, is this even an issue? Also. in the example above, what would the PCT be for the sample cycle provided since my MD does have me completely come off everything for 8 weeks?

In any case, I may begin a TRT only log with additional details such as diet, exercise, and supplements. I will hold off on self administration just for simplicity's sake because I'm already worried about MD finding out and having that awkward conversation lol.
 
I just figured out how to "multiquote" after my initial reply to NPC lol, but seriously thanks everyone for the replies, I'm sure you all get so many of these, so I really appreciate it. Ok here it goes.

sure we are here to help you
maybe get a log going and we can take a look at everythign
get a FULL LOG going whatever you use

Yes I think i will start a log for my TRT only cycle and include diet, exercise, supps.

yes it can be overwhelming. we have a lot of good content on here

Yes! it freaks me out honestly, theres just so much to have to filter through. So thank you for your reassurance.

bros add more test to the trt and LOG it on evo
i suggesting adding more test and var and posting up a TRT log asap
add some testosterone and thats a stackLOG LOG LOG LOG LOG
+300mgs test+50mgs var and LOG TRT test log asap
solo test and anavar cycle is it
+LOG ASAP its a must
500mgs testosterone
50mgs anavar
n2guard
+sarms
for sure thats it
LOG please asap now
- - - Updated - - -

bump the test 300mgs+
add anavar 50mgs
add ostarine and cardarine

and pls dont forget to share a LOG[/QUOTE]

As much as I would love to add addtl drugs, I'm going to hold off on self-admin for simplicity's sake and also to avoid any issues with the MD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they will definitely find out in post labs right?


LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

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Full editorial process was followed, and please read our medical disclaimer, check our editorial process.

Wow that is amazing, there is a medical review board on here? That definitely only makes me more confident moving forward. Thank you so much. I will post a log of my TRT only cycle.



I like the NPC layout.

Me too, I will use that same cycle on my first only cycle.

Welcome to the forum bro.

I've been on TRT for around 4 years now and I had never used AAS prior to being put on TRT.

If you really need TRT you'll see great benefits from your TRT dose for a while as long as your diet and training are in check. I'd ride that wave for a year or so and enjoy the gains. You don't mention your bodyfat but I'd get down to 12% or so before running your first blast. Being at low bodyfat will allow you to eat the way you need to in order to gain on cycle.

I'd suggest 300-500mg Test only for 12 weeks as your first cycle. With proper diet and training you should see significant gains in strength and mass.

I'm sure you've done your research so you should know, TRT is for life. After about a year, there is no turning back. It is very hard to recover natural levels after constant long term use.

You'll find a lot of great dudes on Evo and a lot of great advice. Listen to the vets here

Thank you sir! I appreciate it. I had to get over the needle hump, which starting off on TRT helped being that it is under medical supervision. And I also thought TRT was for life, but my current TRT program per Dr's order is:
Week 01-10: test cyp-Anastrozole 200mg-1mg/ml/once a week and gonadotropin 50 units/twice a week.
Week 11-13: gonadotropin 50 units/twice a week.
Week 14-21: completely off everything (8 week rest period).

So he has me coming off. Idk im just gonna do what the Dr tells me to do throughout this program.

What's this 'off' gym mean?

So theres been maybe 6 periods throughout the past 10 years I've taken a break longer than 6 months for various reasons. The last one was in 2022 where I completely stopped working out and ate like shit daily because I was in between multiple jobs and a move and it was just a hectic time.

bro look at sports trt

Damn I didn't know that even exists, I didn't see google ads for those lol. But ill look into it thank you.

Welcome to evo....start a log asap.......

Thank you!

If you just got on TRT being hypogonadal. I would run with that for a year.
You should make gains and feel awesome. I gained 10 lbs of muscle my first year.
After that you might try the other compounds for the desired effect. If you don't plan on competing
power or physique you might tread very carefully with the stronger compounds.

Best of luck to you!

Thank you! Yes I have no desire for competitions. I do know that the amount of time and effort I put into fitness in the past, I just want more bang for my buck, so i've finally decided to get into AAS.
 
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