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Thread: Help out first cycle in 3 years

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    Help out first cycle in 3 years

    Ok so I'm completely new to this forum stuff. I'll start with stats
    Height : 5'8
    Wieght : 170
    Bf: 13%
    Age : 25
    7 years very dedicated lifting and dieting
    So back to the topic I have done one cycle of just test back when I was 22 (now 25) I did test prop for 8 weeks followed by 4 weeks of clomid and tamoxifen I now realize I should have waited but I let some one talk to me into. Experience was fine I gained close to 28lbs and kept it all for over a year only problem was in the past couple years I got exetermly Ill and was hospitalized losing all the weight I gained plus 15 lbs more. Fast forward I have tried so many different things and can not put back on the muscle I was had after cycle. So I am planing on doing a cycle of test cyp 400mg for 12 weeks with exemestane 12.5mg eod for entire cycle then same pct protocol as before clomid and tamoxifen 4 weeks maybe hcg the last 4 weeks of test but not sure. The question at hand is I have anavar and tbol on hand and would like to add one into my cycle. I have been doing TONS of research on aas for several years. I just want some actual opinions from people who have actually taken them first hand. Please chime in with opinions and if I missed something apologize ahead if I missed something let me know I can add

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    First, I wouldn't use HCG with your cycle. HCG is some nasty stuff. It actually raises estrogen levels and often is what CAUSES the gyno people experience from their cycle. Read this: http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/

    Second, you also need to run a much better PCT after your cycle. Not just to ensure you keep all the gains you made on cycle, but to ensure proper natural testosterone production post cycle.

    I would use the anavar as a 6 week kick start. Just make sure to use a liver aid with it as it is a carbon 17 alpha alkylated oral steroid and liver toxic as a result.

    Here's what I recommend:

    Weeks 1 - 12
    testosterone 400mg/week
    aromasin 12.5mg every other day

    Weeks 1 - 6
    anavar 50mg/day
    N2guard 7 capsules/day

    After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perf...e-therapy-pct/

    You can order everything you need for the cycle and the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

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    Just jump into something basic. your receptors will respond nicely if you have been off for 3 years. Test alone would even be good.

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    I like Muskate's layout above. I am actually running Nordic Fusion tbol right now and love it. I have good pumps and strength increases 2 weeks in now. If I had to choose though, I would pick anavar...assuming you are using a trusted source and not getting winny instead. I am running var at the end of my cycle. You should have really nice gains from your cycle. Glad you are back to health brother.

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    Yea I have read a lot of mixed things about HCG that's why I wasn't sure but I do have it on hand. Yes mostly all my gear is pharm grade. Deff will look into that pct protocol. Never done the GW. Thanks for the reply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumpniron91 View Post
    Yea I have read a lot of mixed things about HCG that's why I wasn't sure but I do have it on hand. Yes mostly all my gear is pharm grade. Deff will look into that pct protocol. Never done the GW. Thanks for the reply!
    Believe you me - GW is freaken awesome, and the boost in endurance, recovery and fat loss is a sight to see. The best part of it is that there are no side effects, and it is non-hormonal. Regarding the HCG - better stay away from it - the doubtful benefits are not worth all the risks.
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