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    How does this cycle look?

    Itís been 20 years since Iíve done a cycle and I screwed that one up trying not to make the same mistake again.
    Itís been 20 years since Iíve done a cycle and I screwed that one up trying not to make the same mistake again.

    My cycle consists of:
    Week 1-12 500mg split 2 shots per week
    Week 1-12 EQ 500 mg same split
    Week 1-4 dbol 30 mg
    Week 5-12 60 mg anavar
    Arimedex 1 mg eod until 2 week blood check
    PCT will be hCG, nolva Clomid.
    My question is can I/should I use either proviron or masteron. Where do they work well or is there any interaction with the other compounds I will be taking.?

    Also does anyone know anything about ZPHC pharmaceuticals? Hard to find anything about them on the web

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    bro, 12 consecutive weeks of orals??? fuck no man

    zphc is my favorite brand and you definitely want to go with them... domestic-supply.com

    you NEVER use hcg in pct, ever...


    when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written downÖ



    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well?Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There?s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.



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    +1 on everything Dylan covered.

    I personally would just do the test 500mg/EQ 500mg a week of each of those and then Proviron 50mg/day

    If you really want to throw Dbol for 4-6 weeks or Anavar for 4-6 weeks (not both!) I mean have at it but I guess what are you trying to accomplish? Looks like a bulk mixed with a cut?

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    OK thanks for the reply.
    I figured the Dbol for the first couple weeks to kick start the cycle as I read Anavar was not metabolized in the liver but kidneys and was considered to be a safe oral.

    I shouldíve clarified better on the hCG I plan using it 7 to 9 days after my last shot where I will start the pills probably after 10-12 days of injections of hcg.

    Will the AI interfere with the proviron causing a crash?

    When do I use mk-2866 and gw-501516?

    So you donít Suggest doing more than 6 weeks of anavar and tossing the dbol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrd View Post
    Itís been 20 years since Iíve done a cycle and I screwed that one up trying not to make the same mistake again.
    Itís been 20 years since Iíve done a cycle and I screwed that one up trying not to make the same mistake again.

    My cycle consists of:
    Week 1-12 500mg split 2 shots per week
    Week 1-12 EQ 500 mg same split
    Week 1-4 dbol 30 mg
    Week 5-12 60 mg anavar
    Arimedex 1 mg eod until 2 week blood check
    PCT will be hCG, nolva Clomid.
    My question is can I/should I use either proviron or masteron. Where do they work well or is there any interaction with the other compounds I will be taking.?

    Also does anyone know anything about ZPHC pharmaceuticals? Hard to find anything about them on the web

    bro your pct is not good at all...its great you posted about this but we need to re-review it...
    this is a good long thread about it
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ed!-49252.html

    bro hcg is dangerous...read
    https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
    https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

    my suggestion based on your cycle...
    also clomid will make you CRAZY emotional bro...
    https://www.evolutionary.org/clomid-clomiphene-citrate

    PCT week 1
    2000 IU HCG 1 shot
    60mgs/nolva/D
    40 ostazol/D

    week 2-3
    nolvadex 60mgs/D (replace clomid)
    n2generate 5caps/D (replace hcg)
    cardazol 20/D (keep your energy and fat loss)
    cardarine gw 10/d (boost ppar antigens)
    n2guard 5c/d (organ cleanse and liver restoration)

    week 4-6
    nolvadex 40mgs/D (replace clomid)
    n2generate 5caps/D (replace hcg)
    cardazol 30/D (keep your energy and fat loss)
    cardarine gw 20/d (boost ppar antigens)
    n2guard 7c/d (organ cleanse and liver restoration)

    bro pct is serious....WAY more serious than cycle...so you gotta really plan it out....
    Want to know Source info? Check Approved Sources section on Evo!

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    the guys covered it all above.

    never use hcg in pct!
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    Hey thanks man I appreciate it. Iím trying to learn all I can. Itís like all of these pct protocols I read about , no 2 are the same.

    So this pct you recommend also has 1 shot of hcg? Any reason for the one time dose of 2000 iu?

    I was actually on clinic for pct so I know what to expect.

    No Ai durning pct?

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    Anavar is liver toxic as well as dbol

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    Drop the dbol. It's so wet and strong that for me it's impossible to control estrogen on. I gained 15 lbs of water weight and bp skyrocketed in a week even though I doubled my ai dose. Then got the only case of acne I've ever had. Horrible fatigue. Nasty shit.

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    That's not a PCT.

    PSL Ambassador - Tried, Tested, Trusted.

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