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Thread: Lethargy and ED on TBOL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak23 View Post
    Yeah I am. Arimidex 0.5mg twice per week.
    No AI works 2x a week. Try EOD

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    Dylan made a good point about liver toxicity and I'd also like to know if you are running any support products currently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak23 View Post
    I just have mild hypertension and am on BP medication.
    get your heart health fixed before using steroids.

    most men over 30/40 have ED. hell even guys in their 20's have it these days.. this didn't exist until people started to get heart disease and overweight

    remember like i said.. ED is a lack of blood flow to the penis. so fixing that starts with great heart health #1. you should not be using meds for your heart, they don't fix the problem, they cover it up. i'm not saying quit the meds overnight.. but i'm saying you should gradually lower them until you don't need them anymore. and in the mean time get n2generate for that ED
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak23 View Post
    Yeah I am. Arimidex 0.5mg twice per week.
    That's not enough. You need more than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylangemelli View Post
    you do realize tbol is a toxic oral steroid right? meaning it can hammer your liver, blood pressure, cholesterol, kidneys etc... so being on bp medication is already a huge red flag... are you taking anything to protect yourself with it? also, if your liver is getting hit hard, it will cause serious lethargy as well
    Hey Dylan, Love your videos on YouTube. You really give great information! Yes I know TBol is toxic and I am taking N2Guard each day with it. I know I was taking a chance trying it with my mild HTN but I know that TBol doesn't aromatize and doesn't cause worsening BP, at least directly. I think my liver getting hit hard is probably the culprit with my lethargy although I thought 30-40mg of TBol wouldn't hit it that hard, especially with N2Guard onboard. I think taking it is not worth it and am going to stop the cycle, go back to my TRT dose of Test and do a SARMS cycle with S4, Ostarine and Cardarine. Thoughts on this? And if you think I should go with the SARMS should I wait a specific amount of time for TBol to be out of my system or can I start right up with the SARMS? Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak23 View Post
    Hey Dylan, Love your videos on YouTube. You really give great information! Yes I know TBol is toxic and I am taking N2Guard each day with it. I know I was taking a chance trying it with my mild HTN but I know that TBol doesn't aromatize and doesn't cause worsening BP, at least directly. I think my liver getting hit hard is probably the culprit with my lethargy although I thought 30-40mg of TBol wouldn't hit it that hard, especially with N2Guard onboard. I think taking it is not worth it and am going to stop the cycle, go back to my TRT dose of Test and do a SARMS cycle with S4, Ostarine and Cardarine. Thoughts on this? And if you think I should go with the SARMS should I wait a specific amount of time for TBol to be out of my system or can I start right up with the SARMS? Thanks man.
    Hey bro, i appreciate it. Since youve been on close to two weeks, bare minimum i would run the m1 mk test booster four weeks then go with a sarms stack. You can get everything at esarms.com... the cycle you picked is excellent... the original triple stack is tried and true bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylangemelli View Post
    Hey bro, i appreciate it. Since youve been on close to two weeks, bare minimum i would run the m1 mk test booster four weeks then go with a sarms stack. You can get everything at esarms.com... the cycle you picked is excellent... the original triple stack is tried and true bro
    Do I need to run a test booster if I am on TRT and HCG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak23 View Post
    Do I need to run a test booster if I am on TRT and HCG?
    I would drop the hcg. Theres no need. You can run a test booster at any time in any scenario. M1 mk is always a helpful addition

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak23 View Post
    Do I need to run a test booster if I am on TRT and HCG?
    No. If you're taking test then there's no reason for your body to produce any. A bit like painting the the outside of the house when wanting to make the room inside better.

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    I'm on HCG to keep some fertility going and my balls healthy. It and the TRT are prescribed by a Hormone Specialist Physician. So, should I take 4 weeks off and just use my normal Test dose and HCG and then start a SARMs cycle or can I start it now?

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