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Lethargy and ED on TBOL?

GeneticFreak23

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I'm currently on day 10 of 40mg of TBol per day and Sustanon 350mg Per week and I have felt absolutely terrible with lethargy and no libido with erectile dysfunction since starting this cycle. Is this normal? And if so should I stop the cycle for now and see how I feel just in case it is something else? I have also noticed that if I take TBol later in the day I have a hard time falling asleep and haven't been getting good rest. And I have already gained 4-5 pounds in 10 days which I know isn't normal for TBol.

Any insight or suggestions would be great! Thanks.
 
I would run that dose of arimidex eod, and get your bloodwork checked to see if anything is unbalanced. It is possible your estrogen levels are getting high.
 
Should I decrease the amount of Test I am running maybe back to my TRT dose of 120 per week or maybe down to 250mg? I was thinking my estrogen may be high too because TBol shouldn't cause these effects right?
 
Turanabol doesn't aromitize, so it shouldn't be the culprit. Sust usually has some long esters, so even backing the dose down now might take some time to see a change. While you certainly can lower the dosage, I would still get your AI dosing up to eod either way. Generally, arimidex is only great for those who aren't estrogen sensitive, and many times aromasin can be a better performer.
 
Should I decrease the amount of Test I am running maybe back to my TRT dose of 120 per week or maybe down to 250mg? I was thinking my estrogen may be high too because TBol shouldn't cause these effects right?

Sounds like high estrogen. Def get bloodwork done.

Tbol doesnt aromatize to estrogen so should have no impact on estrogen levels.

Its really up to you on the test dosage. You can either increase your AI dosage to .5mg every other day to be safe but def get bloodwork done to know for sure as P0N stated.
 
you do realize tbol is a toxic oral steroid right? meaning it can hammer your liver, blood pressure, cholesterol, kidneys etc... so being on bp medication is already a huge red flag... are you taking anything to protect yourself with it? also, if your liver is getting hit hard, it will cause serious lethargy as well
 
Dylan made a good point about liver toxicity and I'd also like to know if you are running any support products currently?
 
I just have mild hypertension and am on BP medication.

get your heart health fixed before using steroids.

most men over 30/40 have ED. hell even guys in their 20's have it these days.. this didn't exist until people started to get heart disease and overweight

remember like i said.. ED is a lack of blood flow to the penis. so fixing that starts with great heart health #1. you should not be using meds for your heart, they don't fix the problem, they cover it up. i'm not saying quit the meds overnight.. but i'm saying you should gradually lower them until you don't need them anymore. and in the mean time get n2generate for that ED
 
you do realize tbol is a toxic oral steroid right? meaning it can hammer your liver, blood pressure, cholesterol, kidneys etc... so being on bp medication is already a huge red flag... are you taking anything to protect yourself with it? also, if your liver is getting hit hard, it will cause serious lethargy as well

Hey Dylan, Love your videos on YouTube. You really give great information! Yes I know TBol is toxic and I am taking N2Guard each day with it. I know I was taking a chance trying it with my mild HTN but I know that TBol doesn't aromatize and doesn't cause worsening BP, at least directly. I think my liver getting hit hard is probably the culprit with my lethargy although I thought 30-40mg of TBol wouldn't hit it that hard, especially with N2Guard onboard. I think taking it is not worth it and am going to stop the cycle, go back to my TRT dose of Test and do a SARMS cycle with S4, Ostarine and Cardarine. Thoughts on this? And if you think I should go with the SARMS should I wait a specific amount of time for TBol to be out of my system or can I start right up with the SARMS? Thanks man.
 
Hey Dylan, Love your videos on YouTube. You really give great information! Yes I know TBol is toxic and I am taking N2Guard each day with it. I know I was taking a chance trying it with my mild HTN but I know that TBol doesn't aromatize and doesn't cause worsening BP, at least directly. I think my liver getting hit hard is probably the culprit with my lethargy although I thought 30-40mg of TBol wouldn't hit it that hard, especially with N2Guard onboard. I think taking it is not worth it and am going to stop the cycle, go back to my TRT dose of Test and do a SARMS cycle with S4, Ostarine and Cardarine. Thoughts on this? And if you think I should go with the SARMS should I wait a specific amount of time for TBol to be out of my system or can I start right up with the SARMS? Thanks man.

Hey bro, i appreciate it. Since youve been on close to two weeks, bare minimum i would run the m1 mk test booster four weeks then go with a sarms stack. You can get everything at esarms.com... the cycle you picked is excellent... the original triple stack is tried and true bro
 
Hey bro, i appreciate it. Since youve been on close to two weeks, bare minimum i would run the m1 mk test booster four weeks then go with a sarms stack. You can get everything at esarms.com... the cycle you picked is excellent... the original triple stack is tried and true bro

Do I need to run a test booster if I am on TRT and HCG?
 
Do I need to run a test booster if I am on TRT and HCG?

No. If you're taking test then there's no reason for your body to produce any. A bit like painting the the outside of the house when wanting to make the room inside better.
 
I'm on HCG to keep some fertility going and my balls healthy. It and the TRT are prescribed by a Hormone Specialist Physician. So, should I take 4 weeks off and just use my normal Test dose and HCG and then start a SARMs cycle or can I start it now?
 
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