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Background:
I ran my first cycle about a year ago with just Test E @500mg and I hated it. Hair lose plagued me and I had high estrogen until I found the right dose of arimidex which was .5mg EOD. Now, I would like to run another cycle and would like some input, not really on the AAS but on diet and slin. Yes, it's dangerous but relatively safe and easy to manage, especially, if you are not a jack ass and at least loosely monitor your diet which I meticulously do.

Current Stats:
Age: 27
Height: 5'7
Weight: 182lb
BF%: 10
Comp Squat: 445
Comp Bench: 270lb
Comp Deadlift: 505lb
Strict Press: 170lb

Maintenance Diet for 182lb (Last 2 months averages):
Calories: 3662/3662
Carbs: 480g/488g
Protein: 212g/208g
Fat: 92g/89g

I'm trying to keep my fats as low as possible while having health related foods in it (eggs/sardine/avocado/dark chocolate/lean red meat) which comes to around 80g most days. Protein is set at around .8g/lb from meat/dairy and I get a decent amount more through the carbs I eat. All remaining calories are carbs. I'd love to have more protein but carbs are just so cheap. I'm on such a tight budget, that I had to learn how to brew my own gear which I must say was an invaluable skill to acquire.

Cycle:
Week 1-4: 125mg Test E/600mg Deca/40 Tbol/6-20IU R Insulin
Week 5-8: 125mg Test E/800mg Deca/40 Tbol/6-20IU R Insulin
*25mg MK-677 with Somatostatin inhibitor

Please no comments about Deca dick. If you control estrogen you won't get deca dick. Deca is pretty much the safest compound on the hair and Tbol is thrown in at a low dose for some hardening as I'm assuming I will retain some water with this cycle and my appearance matters in the field I work in. I'll start with 6IU slin and up it 2IU at a time until 16-20IU. Of course meal timing and carb quantity all matter and I'll be getting in at last 150g carb when I pin and another 150g within 3-3.5hours. Most protocols for insulin call for 4 weeks on 4 off, however, it all depends on insulin sensitivity which is why I'll get bloodwork for week 5, but 6-8 weeks is pretty common as well with similar time off.

Questions:

-Any guidelines on increasing calories going from a maintenance off cycle (3650cal @182lb) to on cycle seeking maximum mass (using the above compounds) if training volume is kept relatively the same? I was thinking of increasing 750~1000cal surplus for weeks 1-4 weeks and likely another 500cal increase for weeks 5-8 (all from mostly carbs putting me at 700g+ carbs). What is everyone's opinion/experience on this?

-Since R insulin lasts 6-8 hours it is often recommended to pin twice a day, however, that expedites the onset of insulin resistance, so would it not be better to up the dose of the single shot 16-20IU instead of 2 separate shots of 8-10IU? What exactly is the difference of pinning once daily vs twice daily?
 
Deca dick is due to the raise of prolactin which reduces libido.

Deca Dick is the term for sexual dysfunction caused by the use of a progestin. Prolactin increases. DHT decreases.
 
Deca dick is due to the raise of prolactin which reduces libido.

Deca Dick is the term for sexual dysfunction caused by the use of a progestin. Prolactin increases. DHT decreases.

Indeed. Cabergoline or "caber'" is the solution or, at the very least, the way in which to counteract an increased level of prolactin.

(Prolactin: Nature's gift to humankind; without which humankind would have already ceased to exist by way of overpopulation.)
 
Indeed. Cabergoline or "caber'" is the solution or, at the very least, the way in which to counteract an increased level of prolactin.

(Prolactin: Nature's gift to humankind; without which humankind would have already ceased to exist by way of overpopulation.)

I only mentioned deca cause a.) he said not to b.) some of his post was wrong
 
I only mentioned deca cause a.) he said not to b.) some of his post was wrong

Oh yeah. I mean, after all, he did write, "Please, no comments about Deca dick." ;)


Max Growth Cycle. Hey, I think I know that dude!


I'm out!
 
Check out the indepth insulin video series I did with IFBB Pro Colette Nelson

Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iCbGkJKPZI&t=4s
Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdZJjhATkI&t=3s

If you want to use insulin, I would use a basal insulin like lantus and do one injection before bed each day

Fasting glucose on June 2nd was 93mg/dl, hopefully, MK677 and somatastitin inhibitor have not effected it much since then. That was a very informative video and I'll go get those strips and keep a much closer eye on it.

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So what else is new?

Yeah, I mentioned it on the other thread. I tried renaming and it posted as a new thread -_-. Can you lighten up now?

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Thanks for all input guys. Originally, I started looking into insulin because I've been maintaining on nearly 500g carb and since I wanted to bulk I knew that number was going to substantially increase, so thought I might as well add insulin for the added benefit of increased glycogen, protein synthesis, igf1 production, and lowered shbp. Leaving slin out of the mix I will get some proviron.

As for caloric intake what estimates are a good starting point for putting on mass going from maintenance to bulk? I was thinking of going from 3650 to 4400 (750 increase from mostly carbs). Don't want to become a fat ass or waste a cycle for aiming to just lean gain.
 
Yeah, I mentioned it on the other thread. I tried renaming and it posted as a new thread -_-. Can you lighten up now?

Actually, my comment was directed to Mobster. And it was in reference to the fact that we field a high number of very closely related questions. It was not intended for your consumption per se. Nonetheless, I do apologize for my having offended you.


Hey! Wait a minute! I'm Eddie Haskell. I never lighten up on anyone. It's what I do! ;-)
 
Actually, my comment was directed to Mobster. And it was in reference to the fact that we field a high number of very closely related questions. It was not intended for your consumption per se. Nonetheless, I do apologize for my having offended you.


Hey! Wait a minute! I'm Eddie Haskell. I never lighten up on anyone. It's what I do! ;-)

No offense taken 0_0 haha
 
No offense taken 0_0 haha

Dammit! What's wrong with me? I'm Eddie Fucking Haskell! Being offensive is supposed to be my specialty! More tren', Egor! More tren'!

Be well, bro! :)
 
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