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    Next cycle for when the gyms open back up

    6í1Ē / 100kg / 16% body fat

    Iím wanting to do a big cycle when the gyms open back up and this is what Iíve got planned to put some good size on.
    Iíve never run Trestolone Acetate (MENT) before and now Iím wondering if I should drop the Dianabol during the cycle (or just swap to Turinabol) because of the estrogen then run a lower Trest dose from the beginning for longer and lower the Test.

    13 Week Cycle

    Test Enanthate 300mg/ml (600mg E6D)
    * 1ml x E3D
    * Weeks 1 - 13

    Tren Enanthate 200mg/ml (300mg E6D)
    * 0.75ml x E3D
    * Weeks 1 - 13

    Trest Ace / MENT 50mg/ml (50mg ED)
    * 1ml x ED
    * Weeks 8 - 13

    HCG 5000iu (Day 1)
    * Add 2ml of Bac water
    * 0.1ml (250iu) x 2 per week
    * 0.3ml (750iu) E3D with MENT

    Dianabol 20mg (Weeks 2 - 7)
    * 20mg x 2 (40mg ED)
    * Split AM/PM

    Proviron 25mg (Week 1 - 15)
    * 25mg x 2 (50mg ED)
    * Split AM/PM

    Aromasin 25mg (Day 1)
    * 25mg x 0.5 EOD
    * 25mg x 1 ED (During MENT)

    Cabergoline 1mg (Day 1)
    * 1mg x 0.25 E3D
    * 1mg x 0.5 E3D with MENT

    Cardarine (Weeks 1 - 15)
    * 10mg x 2 ED
    * Split AM/PM

    LGD-4033 (Weeks 1 - 15)
    * 7.5mg x 2 ED
    * 1 @ AM
    * 1 @ PM

    N2guard
    * 7 caps ED
    * 3 @ AM
    * 4 @ PM

    Vitamin B12 1mg/ml (1ml First Jab)
    * 0.5ml E2W


    Week 16 - 20 (Post Cycle Therapy)

    Clomid
    * 1 Day - 250mg
    * 1 Week - 200mg ED
    * 1 Week - 100mg ED
    * 1 Week - 50mg ED
    * 1 Week - 25mg ED

    Nolvadex
    * 1 Day - 60mg
    * 2 Weeks - 40mg ED
    * 2 Weeks - 20mg ED

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    don't run a serm only pct. at the very least add in n2generate. also your clomid and nolva dosages are ridiculously obscene. who in their right mind advised you to run 250mg a day and 200mg a day of clomid? that is completely not necessary
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    13 weeks of Tren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    don't run a serm only pct. at the very least add in n2generate. also your clomid and nolva dosages are ridiculously obscene. who in their right mind advised you to run 250mg a day and 200mg a day of clomid? that is completely not necessary
    Clomid
    * 1 Day - 200mg
    * 1 Week - 100mg ED
    * 2 Weeks - 50mg ED

    Nolvadex
    * 1 Day - 40mg
    * 3 Weeks - 20mg ED

    N2Generate ES
    * 5 caps ED
    * 3 @ AM
    * 2 @ PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    13 weeks of Tren?
    Yeah, I thought with the dose being low the extra week wouldnít make much difference, feel free to correct me if I should chop it down to 12?

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    I wouldn't run both dbol and MENT back to back like that. Way too much time straight no liver toxic orals. Add that on top of the toxicity tren already brings. Personally I would just pick one to run at the beginning since you are running long esters. I don't think you really need the oral at the end of the cycle. Check out the Perfect PCT in the stickies too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masonic Bodybuilder View Post
    I wouldn't run both dbol and MENT back to back like that. Way too much time straight no liver toxic orals. Add that on top of the toxicity tren already brings. Personally I would just pick one to run at the beginning since you are running long esters. I don't think you really need the oral at the end of the cycle. Check out the Perfect PCT in the stickies too.
    not to mention the estrogen... fuck, thats one of the worst things that could be ran like that back to back... a fucking nightmare that would be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeseLeeds View Post
    Clomid
    * 1 Day - 200mg
    * 1 Week - 100mg ED
    * 2 Weeks - 50mg ED

    Nolvadex
    * 1 Day - 40mg
    * 3 Weeks - 20mg ED

    N2Generate ES
    * 5 caps ED
    * 3 @ AM
    * 2 @ PM

    Better?






    Yeah, I thought with the dose being low the extra week wouldnít make much difference, feel free to correct me if I should chop it down to 12?
    That's still a lot of clomid bro. 200mg in 1 day?

    I would cut it to 12, is this your first cycle or what's your cycle history?

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    I'd drop the ment and the dbol

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    Thanks for the info! Really appreciate it, should I still take the cardarine throughout the cycle which would mean Iíd be running it for 20 weeks? Yeah I thought Iíd have to drop one or the other, what about adding tbol instead as itís quite mild?

    Would you put the ment towards the start of the cycle if you were to do without any orals?

    Iíve had 2 previous cycles under my belt, a Test E cycle and a tri test tren ace & tbol cycle.
    I was always told to take a big dose to begin with and taper down, itís worked well the past few times (so I thought anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReeseLeeds View Post
    6í1Ē / 100kg / 16% body fat

    Iím wanting to do a big cycle when the gyms open back up and this is what Iíve got planned to put some good size on.
    Iíve never run Trestolone Acetate (MENT) before and now Iím wondering if I should drop the Dianabol during the cycle (or just swap to Turinabol) because of the estrogen then run a lower Trest dose from the beginning for longer and lower the Test.

    13 Week Cycle

    Test Enanthate 300mg/ml (600mg E6D)
    * 1ml x E3D
    * Weeks 1 - 13

    Tren Enanthate 200mg/ml (300mg E6D)
    * 0.75ml x E3D
    * Weeks 1 - 13

    Trest Ace / MENT 50mg/ml (50mg ED)
    * 1ml x ED
    * Weeks 8 - 13

    HCG 5000iu (Day 1)
    * Add 2ml of Bac water
    * 0.1ml (250iu) x 2 per week
    * 0.3ml (750iu) E3D with MENT

    Dianabol 20mg (Weeks 2 - 7)
    * 20mg x 2 (40mg ED)
    * Split AM/PM

    Proviron 25mg (Week 1 - 15)
    * 25mg x 2 (50mg ED)
    * Split AM/PM

    Aromasin 25mg (Day 1)
    * 25mg x 0.5 EOD
    * 25mg x 1 ED (During MENT)

    Cabergoline 1mg (Day 1)
    * 1mg x 0.25 E3D
    * 1mg x 0.5 E3D with MENT

    Cardarine (Weeks 1 - 15)
    * 10mg x 2 ED
    * Split AM/PM

    LGD-4033 (Weeks 1 - 15)
    * 7.5mg x 2 ED
    * 1 @ AM
    * 1 @ PM

    N2guard
    * 7 caps ED
    * 3 @ AM
    * 4 @ PM

    Vitamin B12 1mg/ml (1ml First Jab)
    * 0.5ml E2W


    Week 16 - 20 (Post Cycle Therapy)

    Clomid
    * 1 Day - 250mg
    * 1 Week - 200mg ED
    * 1 Week - 100mg ED
    * 1 Week - 50mg ED
    * 1 Week - 25mg ED

    Nolvadex
    * 1 Day - 60mg
    * 2 Weeks - 40mg ED
    * 2 Weeks - 20mg ED


    This is a pretty big cycle some high dosing there, but it does look well constructed and makes some sense so I can tell you have done some homework... I will chime in and tell you that your post-cycle therapy dosages are too high as Steve mentioned. You need to drop that down, the Clomid dose like the other guys have said and add the herbal support (hcgenerate) IMO, you will notice a huge difference using the herbs.

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