[OFFICIAL EVOLUTIONARY.ORG ANNOUNCEMENT]
Dear Evolutionary Members,
In the past 2 weeks, we have received multiple complaints about the research company: ProvenPeptides.com [from now on: PP]. In particular, a public claim was made by member: 800lbsgorillaa [from now on: 800]; in which, he made multiple accusations about PP and certain members.
After an investigation, we have prepared a report for our evolutionary members. We did our best to make this as neutral and dry as possible, so very little, if any, commentary will be provided beyond direct evidence. In turn, we ask members to respect the outcome of our investigation.
Going forward, the information below will be based on the following standards:
- True = Claim is true, verified by the administration.
- False = Claim is a lie, verified by the administration.
- Unproven = Claim is possibly legitimate but no proof is provided.
- Mixed = Claim is possibly legitimate but some lies might be involved.
Disclaimer: Methods, sources, and personal information will be redacted for safety reasons.
Forum thread/topic under investigation:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/provenpeptides-com-scam-63257.html
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he ordered SARMS from PP, order #201713 on May 02, 2018.
Well! I DO have an order number!!!! here
201713
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RATING:
TRUE
WHAT'S TRUE:
800 provided a print screen proof of order; in addition, he provided payment proof via email on 10/12/2018.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he had a 500% increase in estrogen after using PP SARMS.
After using proven peptides "sarms"
A) I had estrogen 500% increased
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RATING:
MIXED
WHAT'S TRUE:
800 provided verified blood work with estrogen levels around 50% higher than the range.
WHAT'S FALSE:
800 did not provide any blood work to corroborate a 500% increase in estrogen levels.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he got gynecomastia after using PP SARMS.
After using proven peptides "sarms"
B) I got gyno tits
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RATING:
FALSE
WHAT'S FALSE:
800 provided no proof of gynecomastia. Requests for proof unsuccessful.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he went to the Hospital after using PP SARMS.
After using proven peptides "sarms"
C) Went to hospital after taking their 'sarms' …...
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RATING:
TRUE
WHAT'S TRUE:
800 provided proof of an emergency room visit.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he was throwing up and had hot flashes from PP sarms.
After using proven peptides "sarms"
C) ….after taking their 'sarms' with -hot flashes and throwing up-
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RATING:
UNPROVEN
ORIGIN:
Although 800 provided proof of his emergency room visit [see previous claim re: hospital], he could not provide corroborating evidence of hot flashes or nausea.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he was part of an investigation into PP.
After using proven peptides "sarms"
D) I am part of an investigation into provenpeptides and coastlinekratom now who is under investigation
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RATING:
UNPROVEN
ORIGIN:
800 could not provide any evidence of being involved in any investigation into anyone. Though, there is evidence of bodybuilders in the past being part of investigations into companies due to hospitalization from clenbuterol/DNP use.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed ProvenPeptides.com is a subsidiary/owned by Coastlinekratom.com
for the everyone reading this. Provenpeptides.com a supplier of PRESCRIPTION medicine without a prescription is located here:
2524 Water Valley Dr
Saint Cloud FL 34771
PHONE
910-506-3341
They are ran by coastline kratom
coastlinekratom.com
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RATING:
MIXED
WHAT'S TRUE:
800 provided evidence that ProvenPeptides.com uses a merchant account (credit card processing) under the brand Coastlinekratom.com. This was verified via their website order process.
WHAT'S FALSE:
800 did not provide any direct ownership information.
CLAIM:
On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed PP had unapproved representatives and owners spamming and scamming our forums.
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I also have proof this company is spcamming evolutionary.org with reps, pushers and owners on the forums.
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Proof E32830 is a scammer and pusher of these scammers in secret he is exposed:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/e32038-scammer-!-63255.html
RATING:
MIXED
WHAT'S TRUE:
Member: bam_dice provided proof of private messages E32038 was sending. E32038 was promoting PP without approval, and he insisted no moderators should be notified of his unapproved activities.
WHAT'S FALSE:
800 could not corroborate his claim that E32038 was the owner of PP.
ORIGIN
E32038 was a VIP member on our forums. During his work as a VIP on evolutionary, he violated our zero tolerance rules.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-tolerance-rules-(you-will-banned)-27427.html
The following offenses will get you banned right away (no warning):
- Bashing sponsors aka going out of way to say anything negative about sponsors
- Taking pot-shots at sponsors products
- Attacking staff
- Scamming people
[*]Promoting non-sponsor sources
[*]Abuse or commercial use of PM system- Spamming members
- Bully or harass members
- Threaten members or staff
Thank you for your continued support of Evolutionary.org!
Yours in Sport,
Albert Wolfgang (WPA)
Chief Researcher and Administrator