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    Exclamation [OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT] ProvenPeptides Review

    [OFFICIAL EVOLUTIONARY.ORG ANNOUNCEMENT]

    Dear Evolutionary Members,

    In the past 2 weeks, we have received multiple complaints about the research company: ProvenPeptides.com [from now on: PP]. In particular, a public claim was made by member: 800lbsgorillaa [from now on: 800]; in which, he made multiple accusations about PP and certain members.

    After an investigation, we have prepared a report for our evolutionary members. We did our best to make this as neutral and dry as possible, so very little, if any, commentary will be provided beyond direct evidence. In turn, we ask members to respect the outcome of our investigation.

    Going forward, the information below will be based on the following standards:
    • True = Claim is true, verified by the administration.
    • False = Claim is a lie, verified by the administration.
    • Unproven = Claim is possibly legitimate but no proof is provided.
    • Mixed = Claim is possibly legitimate but some lies might be involved.


    Disclaimer: Methods, sources, and personal information will be redacted for safety reasons.

    Forum thread/topic under investigation:
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...cam-63257.html



    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he ordered SARMS from PP, order #201713 on May 02, 2018.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    Well! I DO have an order number!!!! here
    201713
    …...
    RATING:
    TRUE


    WHAT'S TRUE:
    800 provided a print screen proof of order; in addition, he provided payment proof via email on 10/12/2018.




    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he had a 500% increase in estrogen after using PP SARMS.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    After using proven peptides "sarms"
    A) I had estrogen 500% increased
    …...
    RATING:
    MIXED


    WHAT'S TRUE:
    800 provided verified blood work with estrogen levels around 50% higher than the range.


    WHAT'S FALSE:
    800 did not provide any blood work to corroborate a 500% increase in estrogen levels.



    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he got gynecomastia after using PP SARMS.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    After using proven peptides "sarms"
    B) I got gyno tits
    …...
    RATING:
    FALSE


    WHAT'S FALSE:
    800 provided no proof of gynecomastia. Requests for proof unsuccessful.



    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he went to the Hospital after using PP SARMS.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    After using proven peptides "sarms"
    C) Went to hospital after taking their 'sarms' …...
    …...
    RATING:
    TRUE


    WHAT'S TRUE:
    800 provided proof of an emergency room visit.




    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he was throwing up and had hot flashes from PP sarms.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    After using proven peptides "sarms"
    C) ….after taking their 'sarms' with -hot flashes and throwing up-
    …...
    RATING:
    UNPROVEN


    ORIGIN:
    Although 800 provided proof of his emergency room visit [see previous claim re: hospital], he could not provide corroborating evidence of hot flashes or nausea.



    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed he was part of an investigation into PP.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    After using proven peptides "sarms"
    D) I am part of an investigation into provenpeptides and coastlinekratom now who is under investigation
    …...
    RATING:
    UNPROVEN


    ORIGIN:
    800 could not provide any evidence of being involved in any investigation into anyone. Though, there is evidence of bodybuilders in the past being part of investigations into companies due to hospitalization from clenbuterol/DNP use.



    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed ProvenPeptides.com is a subsidiary/owned by Coastlinekratom.com

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    for the everyone reading this. Provenpeptides.com a supplier of PRESCRIPTION medicine without a prescription is located here:
    2524 Water Valley Dr
    Saint Cloud FL 34771
    PHONE
    910-506-3341
    They are ran by coastline kratom
    coastlinekratom.com
    …...
    RATING:
    MIXED


    WHAT'S TRUE:
    800 provided evidence that ProvenPeptides.com uses a merchant account (credit card processing) under the brand Coastlinekratom.com. This was verified via their website order process.

    WHAT'S FALSE:
    800 did not provide any direct ownership information.



    CLAIM:
    On 10/05/2018, post #1, 800 claimed PP had unapproved representatives and owners spamming and scamming our forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by 800lbsgorillaa View Post
    …...
    I also have proof this company is spcamming evolutionary.org with reps, pushers and owners on the forums.
    …...
    Proof E32830 is a scammer and pusher of these scammers in secret he is exposed:
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...r-!-63255.html
    RATING:
    MIXED


    WHAT'S TRUE:
    Member: bam_dice provided proof of private messages E32038 was sending. E32038 was promoting PP without approval, and he insisted no moderators should be notified of his unapproved activities.



    WHAT'S FALSE:
    800 could not corroborate his claim that E32038 was the owner of PP.

    ORIGIN
    E32038 was a VIP member on our forums. During his work as a VIP on evolutionary, he violated our zero tolerance rules.

    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ed)-27427.html

    The following offenses will get you banned right away (no warning):

    • Bashing sponsors aka going out of way to say anything negative about sponsors
    • Taking pot-shots at sponsors products
    • Attacking staff
    • Scamming people
    • Promoting non-sponsor sources
    • Abuse or commercial use of PM system
    • Spamming members
    • Bully or harass members
    • Threaten members or staff

    Thank you for your continued support of Evolutionary.org!

    Yours in Sport,



    Albert Wolfgang (WPA)
    Chief Researcher and Administrator

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    Wolfgang I take my hat off to you. This came out a LOT better than I expected. I gotta say I had my doubts if I was being honest but I was wrong.

    Spot on.

    So much for 800's victim status.

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    Well done WPA, glad to see the admin was watching this reasonably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntwerkz View Post
    Well done WPA, glad to see the admin was watching this reasonably.
    So you agree E was spamming the boards...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1989 View Post
    So you agree E was spamming the boards...?
    brother...its not about agree or disagree....that aint even up for discussion...E broke evo rules 1000% ... rules are rules...either EVERYONE follow them or NO one....straight up strict....and posted in public....this aint a topic brother....
    Want to know Source info? Check Approved Sources section on Evo!

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    Very professional follow-up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1989 View Post
    So you agree E was spamming the boards...?
    I disagree that E was spamming the boards, as you see WPA wrote mixed on that. There was proof of one PM where e suggested a source, from what I’m seeing here WPA isn’t saying he was spamming or the owner he was simply showing the one thing we all seen public.

    We all know E isn’t their pusher.

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    Tough crowd

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    Did this investigation include whether or not 800's IP address matched up with that of a certain moderator?

    No. No, of course, said investigation was not so inclusive.

    Whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Did this investigation include whether or not 800's IP address matched up with that of a certain moderator?
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    I checked it and no match
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