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    PCT

    I have a question for the pros.

    I have always used HCG, Clomid and Nolva after every cycle as a PCT,
    I start them all at the same time, is this the correct way,
    or should i start Clomid and Nolva after i finish HCG.
    Your advice please.

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    hcg should never be used in pct. it will actually keep you suppressed longer and make it take longer to recover!

    if you want to use hcg only use it during cycle while you are shutdown anyway, for pct use your SERM's but also stack in a strong T booster like n2generate
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    Quote Originally Posted by spike View Post
    I have a question for the pros.

    I have always used HCG, Clomid and Nolva after every cycle as a PCT,
    I start them all at the same time, is this the correct way,
    or should i start Clomid and Nolva after i finish HCG.
    Your advice please.
    HCG is actually dangerous, it's a high estrogen really messes with hormones. It's very broscience 1970s to use HCG these days.
    read these articles
    https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
    https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

    Instead of hcg try this layout, it's cleaner and more natural.

    8 week pct for winstrol/anavar - I custom wrote for you

    week 1-2
    60mgs nolvadex ed
    50mgs clomid ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 3-4
    40mgs nolvadex ed
    25mgs clomid ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 5
    20mgs nolvadex ed
    12.5mgs clomid ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 6
    10mgs nolvadex ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 7-8
    3 capsules N2Generate ed
    10mgs cardarine gw ed


    some pct reference
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...9252.htmlreads
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ined-7556.html

    Also Please take the time to log your pct log on evo for us, start a new thread > call it: PCT Log winstrol anavar cycle
    I took the time to write you, I hope you take the time to share how your pct is going with the evo family.

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    NEVER use hcg in pct... when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen...

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





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    nolva 40/40/20/20
    aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
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    Dylan broke it down so well that I cannot add anything to it other than to reiterate to not use HCG in PCT as he covered in great detail






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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    HCG is actually dangerous, it's a high estrogen really messes with hormones. It's very broscience 1970s to use HCG these days.
    read these articles
    https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
    https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

    Instead of hcg try this layout, it's cleaner and more natural.

    8 week pct for winstrol/anavar - I custom wrote for you

    week 1-2
    60mgs nolvadex ed
    50mgs clomid ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 3-4
    40mgs nolvadex ed
    25mgs clomid ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 5
    20mgs nolvadex ed
    12.5mgs clomid ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 6
    10mgs nolvadex ed
    20mgs cardarine gw ed (anti cortisol+cardio)
    5 capsules N2Generate ed (increase testosterone levels get your natty HPTA system working)

    week 7-8
    3 capsules N2Generate ed
    10mgs cardarine gw ed


    some pct reference
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...9252.htmlreads
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ined-7556.html

    Also Please take the time to log your pct log on evo for us, start a new thread > call it: PCT Log winstrol anavar cycle
    I took the time to write you, I hope you take the time to share how your pct is going with the evo family.
    HCG is not safe, its an estrogen so dont use it.

    Eddie has the perfect pct right there for you.

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    bros pct is important you dont use hcg, shit is dangerous

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    PCT dont use hcg its an estrogen poison

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    dont use HCG period
    its very dangerous
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    pct doesnt need hcg thats a myth

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