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    PCT help

    I am running 300mg primo a week along with test and i have my ancillaries on hand like n2guard and an AI. my question is do i still need a pct even with this low dose mild cycle and what should it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manycross1 View Post
    I am running 300mg primo a week along with test and i have my ancillaries on hand like n2guard and an AI. my question is do i still need a pct even with this low dose mild cycle and what should it be?
    of course you need a pct man... it doesnt matter if its lower doses or not... you still need a full pct regardless...

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

    
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    Simply put - yes. I would.

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    yes all steroids shutdown your pituitary glands so it is a smart idea to run a pct so you get a soft landing
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    Are you on TRT? If not why would you think you dont need a PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awm1981 View Post
    Are you on TRT? If not why would you think you dont need a PCT?
    I get the theory he has it just doesn't play out. ''300mg is so low I might not need one''. You do. It's still, at 300mg, multiples of levels higher than what the body will produce. And who knows how he'll react right? Those that don't are 1 in 1000. that leaves 999 of you that do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    I get the theory he has it just doesn't play out. ''300mg is so low I might not need one''. You do. It's still, at 300mg, multiples of levels higher than what the body will produce. And who knows how he'll react right? Those that don't are 1 in 1000. that leaves 999 of you that do.
    Yea im all for minimizing putting compounds into your system but Test and Primo at 300mg/week each and no PCT is absurd.

    I would not want to go through that cold turkey after coming off cycle.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylangemelli View Post
    of course you need a pct man... it doesnt matter if its lower doses or not... you still need a full pct regardless...

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

    
clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
    nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
    DGA ORGAN ST https://www.amazon.com/DGA-Nutraceut.../dp/B0762B5KBG
    
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS) www.sarms.forsale
    gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms.forsale
    Yes you do and I recommend Dylan's layout.
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    Unless you are on TRT, you need to PCT. Low dose or high dose shuts you down just the same.

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    You certainly need a pct bro

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