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    PIP and night time fevers

    Just started my very first cycle of test. I am doing 400mg a week of c/e blend, doing 200mg twice per week, AI is aromasin. The source is an approved source on this site. Currently I have only injected once and will be doing so again tomorrow. It's been three days now and my injection point at my delt is still sore as shit. In fact I had to cut my workout short today because it was so sore and tight. No redness or swelling, but it is tight and slightly hard to the touch.

    I have a RN friend doing the injections for me with a 22 gauge needle. She did .5ml pretty slow on the first. The injection was painless but a few hours later the pain started. I will also add that I had an HCG injection in the opposite delt with the same size needle and it did not get this pain on that side.

    To continue, I have also noticed the past two nights around the time I get in bed I start to get a headache and body chills yet feel hot all over, like I have a fever setting in. My ears and eyes burn and are hot to the touch yet I feel chilly. I feel fine during the day, it's only at night. Is this just a new user thing that will subside soon?

    I'm sure I'm overreacting and it's probably due to this being the first time on anything, but I just want to be sure this is somewhat normal. I was told the virgin muscle and 22 gauge needle may be the issue with PIP so I plan to switch to a 24-25.

    Having said that, is this PIP something I'm just going to have to deal with as I cycle through each new injection point? Should I just train through the pain?

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    First and foremost how are you brother?
    first off let me address this by the fact that you are using a pretty large gauge needle, that alone could be giving you some site discomfort due to its size you can create scar tissue at a faster rate.. 22 gauge needles are basically the gold standard of textbook from people out of medical school communities.. I would suggest using a 25 gauge 1 inch or 1.5 for your glutes. You can also use a 25 gauge 5/8 in your deltoids. If this is Virgin tissue try to break up the volume and also use different injection..rotate injection sites if most of them are virgin tissue allow them the opportunity for exposure and then healing but give ample time with rest between each..

    if you are experiencing any feverish or flu-like symptoms it is a little bit too soon to experience testosterone flu however everybody will respond, experiencing these type of symptoms this soon a lot of times is an indicator of a high concentration of alcohol solvent that can also give flu-like symptoms..
    If you are feeling slightly fatigued with the chills that very well could be the fluctuations with your hormones and that's perfectly natural.. your body is fighting off the foreign invader of the parenting hormone, along with the carrier oil and solvents so your body is recruiting histamines to the injection site and that is your lymphatic system responding.. it may not hurt to take a pain reliever and or some Benadryl..
    Keep an eye on the injection site in case it becomes warm to the touch, red, along with excessive swelling and discomfort spreading..
    In the meantime take some Benadryl rest stop in change injection sites along with your needle gauge size..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Vision~ View Post
    First and foremost how are you brother?
    first off let me address this by the fact that you are using a pretty large gauge needle, that alone could be giving you some site discomfort due to its size you can create scar tissue at a faster rate.. 22 gauge needles are basically the gold standard of textbook from people out of medical school communities.. I would suggest using a 25 gauge 1 inch or 1.5 for your glutes. You can also use a 25 gauge 5/8 in your deltoids. If this is Virgin tissue try to break up the volume and also use different injection..rotate injection sites if most of them are virgin tissue allow them the opportunity for exposure and then healing but give ample time with rest between each..

    if you are experiencing any feverish or flu-like symptoms it is a little bit too soon to experience testosterone flu however everybody will respond, experiencing these type of symptoms this soon a lot of times is an indicator of a high concentration of alcohol solvent that can also give flu-like symptoms..
    If you are feeling slightly fatigued with the chills that very well could be the fluctuations with your hormones and that's perfectly natural.. your body is fighting off the foreign invader of the parenting hormone, along with the carrier oil and solvents so your body is recruiting histamines to the injection site and that is your lymphatic system responding.. it may not hurt to take a pain reliever and or some Benadryl..
    Keep an eye on the injection site in case it becomes warm to the touch, red, along with excessive swelling and discomfort spreading..
    In the meantime take some Benadryl rest stop in change injection sites along with your needle gauge size..
    Thank you very much!

    So if it is a high alcohol concentration is that something I will adjust to in time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsc318 View Post
    Thank you very much!

    So if it is a high alcohol concentration is that something I will adjust to in time?
    BB/BA can cause feverish like symptoms but these subside, and it depends on the user sensitivity.
    Its most likely a combo of the hormone fluctuations reach Cmax levels in 24hrs plus the metabolism of the carrier, and solvents.. injections of almost any sort can imitate this effect..

    give it time
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Vision~ View Post
    BB/BA can cause feverish like symptoms but these subside, and it depends on the user sensitivity.
    Its most likely a combo of the hormone fluctuations reach Cmax levels in 24hrs plus the metabolism of the carrier, and solvents.. injections of almost any sort can imitate this effect..

    give it time
    Will do.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsc318 View Post
    Will do.

    Thanks again!
    let us know how you make out and update everyone in this thread, so people can learn from your experience!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Vision~ View Post
    let us know how you make out and update everyone in this thread, so people can learn from your experience!
    I will for sure

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    Vision has you covered.

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    ^^^^^ Yep, solid advice.

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    Happens to me too during the beginning of a cycle. Low mood, chills, extreme lethargy, PIP. Goes away in 2-3 big max.

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