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Thread: Second Cycle - Need some help from SARMs Experienced People

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    Second Cycle - Need some help from SARMs Experienced People

    I also just got some OSTA/S4 online and wanted to get some LGD/GW later on. Looking for solid inexpensive alternatives to HCGenerate or N2guard if they're absolutely necessary in PCT for Sarms. I thought one of the major benefits of Sarms was you didnt really need PCT Supps because they didnt have the same sides as actual steroids. I'm obviously new and only ran one cycle of LGD/GW/S4 in the past with no PCT supps, I got blood work done and everything was good except my TEST was in the low 300's
    Thinking of running the Osta/S4 then mixing LGD/GW in there at some point.

    What can I use instead of N2Guard/HCGenerate?

    I know there is no real replacement for it and its awesome but I just cant afford all of these right now but still would obviously like to stay healthy. As I said before I got blood work done without using ANYTHING last time other than the SARMs about 2-3 weeks after stopping them and all that was off was my TEST at just above 300 when it should be around 500 (-30 to -40%).

    If someone can give me some insight that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    Previous Advice back in August was:

    week 1-12
    cardarine gw 20mgs/ed (use cardarine version of gw from s1)
    andarine s4 25mgs/ed
    ostarine mk2866 25mgs/ed
    n2guard 5 caps/ed

    Which is why this time I bought the Mk2866 instead of the LGD as per gearhead's advice.

    I am ordering from Sarms1 this time so I'm looking forward to it but I need to save some money somewhere this go around. Thanks.

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    Not to knock board sponsors but I think LIV52 is just as good in terms of 'support' as N2Guard and is used for alcoholics. But ultimately you need to be able to afford a proper cycle and associated ancillaries without trying to cost save IMO. With that being said clomid will certainly help in terms of increase your test and free test back up again.

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    I appreciate the honest response. I understand the board sponsors want to promote their products and I definitely plan on getting N2Guard but I need something for the interim while I'm waiting to get paid. If this type of supplement is absolutely necessary I'd just like to know what I can use for the time being while I start the Ostra/s4.

    Ironically enough I am in recovery so maybe LIV52 and Clomid would be additionally beneficial for me for the first few weeks. Thank you for your advice.

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    In my opinion if you can afford a sarms cycle to begin with you can afford to fork out another bit for the proper protection and pct. its your body man. don't cheap out.

    Liv52 is a good support but pales in comparison to N2Guard

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    Well do you know where I can find it for less expensive than 90$ then lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apps View Post
    I also just got some OSTA/S4 online and wanted to get some LGD/GW later on. Looking for solid inexpensive alternatives to HCGenerate or N2guard if they're absolutely necessary in PCT for Sarms. I thought one of the major benefits of Sarms was you didnt really need PCT Supps because they didnt have the same sides as actual steroids. I'm obviously new and only ran one cycle of LGD/GW/S4 in the past with no PCT supps, I got blood work done and everything was good except my TEST was in the low 300's
    Thinking of running the Osta/S4 then mixing LGD/GW in there at some point.

    What can I use instead of N2Guard/HCGenerate?

    I know there is no real replacement for it and its awesome but I just cant afford all of these right now but still would obviously like to stay healthy. As I said before I got blood work done without using ANYTHING last time other than the SARMs about 2-3 weeks after stopping them and all that was off was my TEST at just above 300 when it should be around 500 (-30 to -40%).

    If someone can give me some insight that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    Previous Advice back in August was:

    week 1-12
    cardarine gw 20mgs/ed (use cardarine version of gw from s1)
    andarine s4 25mgs/ed
    ostarine mk2866 25mgs/ed
    n2guard 5 caps/ed

    Which is why this time I bought the Mk2866 instead of the LGD as per gearhead's advice.

    I am ordering from Sarms1 this time so I'm looking forward to it but I need to save some money somewhere this go around. Thanks.
    The SARMS S4 and LGD are minimally suppressive. They are no where near as suppressive as steroids, but they are still suppressive. You STILL need a PCT after a SARMS cycle. If you can't afford a PCT - DONT do a cycle.

    This is the bear minimum you can get away with as a mini PCT after the cycle you have laid out.

    4 weeks of the following:
    clomid 25mg/day
    HCGenerate 5 capsules/day

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    It just does not go any simpler or cheaper than @muskate's proposal. Remember, it is best to keep things as complete as possible.

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    your layout looks good bro but I would bump the S4 to 50mg/day

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    Yeah I was thinking about doing that myself but I want to ease into it first. 25mg and see if i get the vision sides.. if not then bump it. I assume my body will build a tolerance to it just like anything else so I dont want to overdo it either.

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