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Thread: SERM or AI during test only cylce (first post)

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    Question SERM or AI during test only cylce (first post)

    I'm relatively new to this and I'm running Test E at 300mg every four days. I started to notice some effects of high estrogen levels so I got a bottle of Toremifene. My question is, will this be enough to keep E levels down during my cycle or should I get some Arimidex or Nolva? I will use Nolva during PCT and i'm not sure if it is safe to use for months at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dshell View Post
    I'm relatively new to this and I'm running Test E at 300mg every four days. I started to notice some effects of high estrogen levels so I got a bottle of Toremifene. My question is, will this be enough to keep E levels down during my cycle or should I get some Arimidex or Nolva? I will use Nolva during PCT and i'm not sure if it is safe to use for months at a time.
    AI is for On-Cycle.
    SERMS are for Post-Cycle.

    Get some Aromasin, as this is better than Arimidex.......................................... ... JP
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    Toremifene is a SERM and as such isn't what you want during cycle.
    It can be used for your PCT.
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    Some say Toremifene makes them Ill and use Nolvadex instead.
    I've always used Nolva and have no 1st hand experience with Toremifene.
    Last edited by jp4355; 04-28-2016 at 01:56 PM.

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    You can start with adex 0.5mg eod/e2d and work ur way from there. See how u feel. I'd hold off on nolva until pct


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    Quote Originally Posted by jp4355 View Post
    AI is for On-Cycle.
    SERMS are for Post-Cycle.

    Get some Aromasin, as this is better than Arimidex.......................................... ... JP
    P.S.
    Toremifene is a SERM and as such isn't what you want during cycle.
    It can be used for your PCT.
    P.S.S.
    Some say Toremifene makes them Ill and use Nolvadex instead.
    I've always used Nolva and have no 1st hand experience with Toremifene.
    This is exactly right.

    On cycle - dose aromasin at 10mg EOD

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    You can order everything you need for the cycle and the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

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    I recommend guys run aromasin from day 1. adex is cheaper and in some places more available, but aromasin is the superior choice
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    While the SERMS indeed have certain anti-estrogen properties, they are not even close to being enough as on-cycle support. Therefore, you should be using AI's for this purpose, and aromasin is the best one here. Unlike arimidex, it will not allow any estrogen rebound to happen, and it will improve your lipids (which is the contrary with arimidex). Besides, aromasin will increase your IGF-1 levels by up to 25%, which will be very good for lean mass gains. All in all, AI's should be used for on-cycle estrogen control, and aromasin is the best AI these days. A good starting dosage is 10 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle.

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    I would go with aromasin and next time run it from day 1. Dose it at 12.5mg EOD. ag-guys.com carries it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masonic Bodybuilder View Post
    I would go with aromasin and next time run it from day 1. Dose it at 12.5mg EOD. ag-guys.com carries it.
    Number 1 choice:
    Aromasin 12.5 mg/EOD

    Number 2 choice:
    Arimidex 1 mg/EOD

    Number 3 choice:
    Nolvadex 20 mg/ED

    However, I would highly suggest sticking to number 1 or 2 as they are much more effective and have less sides. Start taking it with day 1, and after few weeks of the cycle do some estrogen blood work to check whether the dosages need to be adjusted.

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