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    Short-cycle clen

    So a lot of people go way into 100+mcg doses with clen and run that for 5-7 days. Personally, I'm not a fan of doing this, and I think risks of ventricular hypertrophy are huge when at doses like that for a long time. It reminds me of doing high-dose adderall (amphetamine) when I had a prescription.

    The half-life of clen is 26 hours and detectable for 48. There isn't any reason it should "take time to build in your system" given the half life and what it does; this is like saying "give adderall XR time to build in your system." So lately I've been experimenting with 3 day on / 2.5 day off clen. The rationale for this is that if you're cutting, you'll have to refeed anyway, and using clen during a refeed is kind of a waste.

    What I've been doing looks like this:

    ON: 50-100mcg with hard deficits in calories
    ON: 40-80mcg with hard deficits in calories
    OFF (some clen still in system from previous days) -- mild deficit
    OFF -- up to choice
    OFF -- refeed calories/maintenance

    Since the total time in your system is about two days, a strong initial dose and mildly strong secondary dose keeps you at a taper dose for the 3rd off day. The 4th and 5th days are completely off.

    I am the only person I know who does this with clen, but I'm trying it so far and liking it.


    Also, since I know everyone likes SARMs, I've been using Ostarine and Cardarine every day. They're good compliments. I actually noticed an endurance increase with Cardarine on my very first day of taking it.

    Your thoughts?

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    good clen cycle bro...as long as you running with cardarine, golden cycle...
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    Going to have to second Gearhead here. Clen + Cardarine = less sides. Actually for me 20-40 mcg of Clen was strong enough for me. At 80-100 you plan to see some results.
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    if you run clen solo you will lose muscle .. is that what you want?

    why not run GW instead and hold your muscle with way less sides?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    if you run clen solo you will lose muscle .. is that what you want?

    why not run GW instead and hold your muscle with way less sides?
    Il why does everyone say clen is going to waste muscle? That's incorrect. It increases nitrogen retention and strength. If you lose muscle on it it's because of the diet.


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    Just sayin...


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    Looks good bro just be careful is dangerous
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    if you run clen solo you will lose muscle .. is that what you want?

    why not run GW instead and hold your muscle with way less sides?
    My thoughts exactly. Clen is nasty stuff, and GW is a much safer and very effective alternative

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    I ashes think gw and Albuterol be much btr choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Il why does everyone say clen is going to waste muscle? That's incorrect. It increases nitrogen retention and strength. If you lose muscle on it it's because of the diet.


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    im new around here and I have to agree with you...
    buddy of mine is 2 weeks in on clen and strength and lean mass has increased...no AAS for 3 years...clen alone...training hard.

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