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Thread: So You Still Think Tren Won't KIll You?

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    So You Still Think Tren Won't KIll You?

    What does it take? I realize bringing this up is like talking to the wind, but Iíll say it anyway.

    Shawn Rodden is dead. He was 46 years old. Forty-fucking- six.

    Now I know to some guys here, I might as well as say he was ninety six. 46 seems so far away. Well, Iím not going to preach to you. Iíll just say what has to be said.

    Shawn Rodden had, what I believe, was the most perfect physique to ever walk on the Olympia stage. He had size, shape, density, aesthetics, definition and an ungodly amount of muscle.

    But hereís the thing.

    Rodden guest posed at a show 6 months after he won the Olympia and he was a fat blob. No, he wasnít just bulking. And he wasnít just out of shape. He was a total nothing. He had nothing -- barely the remnant of a guy who used to work out years ago. How can that be? Because the muscle was fake. It was entirely the result of steroids -- mainly Trenbolone.

    This is what is so astonishing about these drugs. Shawn was the epitome of the result of what massive amounts of steroids can do . Weíve learned over the years that they can not only enhance the bodybuilding process, weíve also learned that if you use high enough dosages of the right stuff and you have an affinity to respond to the drugs, then the training is secondary. You can work out like an average person and youíll grow like a weed. And if you have the natural shape that Shawn had, youíll get among the top competitors.

    What it alsos proves is that even if youíre average, and you take enough Tren, you donít have to know what youíre doing and you donít have to train very hard, and you too will look absolutely amazing. Maybe not pro level, but more muscular than 99% of the people walking the streets. And that is incredibly appealing. And thatís what a lot of guys do.

    And just like with Shawn, itís fake. Iím calling everyone on Tren out. Youíre a bunch of phonies. It isnít real muscle. It isnít even muscle that has been enhanced with PEDS. Itís muscle that is entirely created from PEDís and itís every bit as temporary.

    And, oh yeah...one other thing you get out of that Tren cycle. You shorten your life.

    Tren was taken off the market for a reason. Itís poison. Then again, I guess night sweats, coughing, loss of breath, high blood pressure, mood swings and insomnia are perfectly normal and acceptable. I see some of the mods here telling people how to deal with those side effects. How about telling them to stop using that shit!

    I know...I know...there will be those who say Shawn had other issues or that they donít take too much or they use a good PCT or whatever. Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

    Now, you donít have to listen to me. I know Iím not mister popularity on these boards. Saying what people donít want to hear isnít a winning formula for making friends. But hereís the rub -- in trying to help people Iíve gotten a lot of criticism over the last 20 years. Iím used to it. It doesnít bother me for one simple reason. In the end, Iíve been proven right. And Iím right about this.

    Of course, if youíre young youíre immortal. And since Iím old Iím obviously out of touch. Thatís been established. Thatís the mentality. But Iím not here to defend myself. Iím here to speak my mind and hopefully reach one or two guys who still have enough sense left to listen.

    So, here it is...

    If you use Tren you are a fucking moron.

    If you use more than a gram a week, you are a moron.

    If you stay on more than 12 weeks at a time, you are a moron.

    If you think youíre going to become a pro and get rich, you are a moron.

    But thatís just me. Iím just a guy who fell in love with bodybuilding and spent my life becoming stronger and healthier from it and remaining young because of it. And Iíll keep espousing the true bodybuilding lifestyle until I do. Iím not anti-drug. Iím anti drug abuse. And there is too much of it. Not only among the pros, but right here.

    And then there are the guys whoíve gone the other route. They take a shit ton of drugs, get big, and think theyíre better. So, itís your choice who you listen to.

    I wonder what Shawn would say. I wonder if he thinks it was worth it. Maybe he does. Maybe some people reading this would make that sacrifice just to have that moment of glory.

    Thereís an old expression -- donít let the tail wag the dog. Bodybuilding can enhance your life. But you still need a life. If all you have is bodybuilding then the desire for more progress and more attention will lead to taking that shortcut in order to achieve it. Then it IS your life. And thatís pretty fucking pathetic.

    Take it for what itís worth.
    In that profile pic, I'm 64 years old. On only 100 mgs of TRT a week. Designer and Developer of N2GUARD and BRIDGE. www.needtobuildmuscle.com

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    So far, as far as rumors go, it's being suggested it was a heart attack (Stevesmi has addressed PED use and heart issues). It's also been noted (some weeks back) that he was sitting at around 300lbs recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobster View Post
    So far, as far as rumors go, it's being suggested it was a heart attack (Stevesmi has addressed PED use and heart issues). It's also been noted (some weeks back) that he was sitting at around 300lbs recently.
    And yet I see recommendations on using Tren. As for Shawn weighing 300, I'll bet there there are guys on this board who weigh around 250 and think they're hot shit. The human body is not meant to carry that much weight, even if it's muscle. That's a commentary on gaining too much size in general. But Tren adds to it with increased hypertension. Tren use is potential suicide. You can ignore. it. Justify it. Rationalize it. Excuse it. But it is what it is.
    In that profile pic, I'm 64 years old. On only 100 mgs of TRT a week. Designer and Developer of N2GUARD and BRIDGE. www.needtobuildmuscle.com

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    Its not a tren problem. Its a drug abuse problem in general combined with weighing as much as these guys do. The heart can't support the weight and the abuse. Its a double whammy. The sport of bodybuilding at the higher levels has got way out of hand. The deaths have become commonplace and things need to change. Ive said it before, but this is why I quit watching and supporting pro bodybuilding a long time ago.

    Nelson I agree with you a lot on this topic. Maybe not 100% of it, but the the overall message i agree with. Theres a certain level of balance in this lifestyle and understanding that line between use and abuse.

    Stay away from the strong shit. Stick to the mild shit, and don't abuse in dosages and durations.

    Some of the smarter ones knew when it was time to step away and save their health. Dorian, Branch Warren, Jay Cutler, just to make a few. They may catch shit now for not being as big anymore, but they are alive
    Last edited by RickRock; 11-07-2021 at 07:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock View Post
    Its not a tren problem. Its a drug abuse problem in general combined with weighing as much as these guys do. The heart can't support the weight and the abuse. Its a double whammy. The sport of bodybuilding at the higher levels has got way out of hand. The deaths have become commonplace and things need to change. Ive said it before, but this is why I quit watching and supporting pro bodybuilding a long time ago.

    Nelson I agree with you a lot on this topic. Maybe not 100% of it, but the the overall message i agree with. Theres a certain level of balance in this lifestyle and understanding that line between use and abuse.

    Stay away from the strong shit. Stick to the mild shit, and don't abuse in dosages and durations.

    Some of the smarter ones knew when it was time to step away and save their health. Dorian, Branch Warren, Jay Cutler, just to make a few. They may catch shit now for not being as big anymore, but they are alive
    I agree completely. The excess weight is a big factor and Dorian and Jay have managed to get through it unscathed and still look good. But in the last 10 years or so the Tren factor has become huge.

    Let's face it, nothing is as transforming as tren. And that's what they're gonna use. Dorian ran a lot of testosterone and dianabol and GH. The guys today ain't doing that. And Shawn is the perfect example of a Tren body. But muscles from Tren is like courage from being drunk. It's a temporary illusion, albeit, a powerful one. That's why so many guys are attracted to it. They don't need to study bodybuilding. They don't need to watch what they eat. They don't need to take supplements and hey don't need to train hard. Just lots and lots of Tren and they'll get big and cut. For now. And NOW is all that matters.

    They're the phony's. The fakers. The posers. Full of piss and vinegar when they're on and they take selfies and once they're off, they "cruise" on something else and hide. Meanwhile, they cooked their insides. For what? Fake muscles for a month. That's not bodybuilding. It's the opposite of bodybuilding. And that's why I don't expect too many responses to this thread. No body likes to get called out. And nobody wants to think about their own demise.
    In that profile pic, I'm 64 years old. On only 100 mgs of TRT a week. Designer and Developer of N2GUARD and BRIDGE. www.needtobuildmuscle.com

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    Trenbolone won't kill you, abusing tren will. Abusing aspirin can kill you too and water too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson montana View Post
    I agree completely. The excess weight is a big factor and Dorian and Jay have managed to get through it unscathed and still look good. But in the last 10 years or so the Tren factor has become huge.

    Let's face it, nothing is as transforming as tren. And that's what they're gonna use. Dorian ran a lot of testosterone and dianabol and GH. The guys today ain't doing that. And Shawn is the perfect example of a Tren body. But muscles from Tren is like courage from being drunk. It's a temporary illusion, albeit, a powerful one. That's why so many guys are attracted to it. They don't need to study bodybuilding. They don't need to watch what they eat. They don't need to take supplements and hey don't need to train hard. Just lots and lots of Tren and they'll get big and cut. For now. And NOW is all that matters.

    They're the phony's. The fakers. The posers. Full of piss and vinegar when they're on and they take selfies and once they're off, they "cruise" on something else and hide. Meanwhile, they cooked their insides. For what? Fake muscles for a month. That's not bodybuilding. It's the opposite of bodybuilding. And that's why I don't expect too many responses to this thread. No body likes to get called out. And nobody wants to think about their own demise.
    I do agree with you about Tren. Let's call it what is. Its poison for the body. Its also true that you can use tren and it will transform you without really having to diet that hard. The time has come for self accountability and to accept the real dangers that are out there in this lifestyle. If you dont youll pay for it. Eventually it catches up with you. Nobody is exempt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Trenbolone won't kill you, abusing tren will. Abusing aspirin can kill you too and water too.
    That probably explains all the deaths we hear about from people drinking too much water. : /
    In that profile pic, I'm 64 years old. On only 100 mgs of TRT a week. Designer and Developer of N2GUARD and BRIDGE. www.needtobuildmuscle.com

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    bros i used 1000mgs of tren/week and Im here
    nelson safe use of tren whatever we want hardcore tren

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    ROIDDERS SAYS > nelson dont hate trenbolone, you hating the player not the game

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