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Thread: Test/Deca Blast Before Stopping TRT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylangemelli View Post
    its scary to even hear a weak half assed pct even being discussed... are you intent on learning the hard way?

    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.


    



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    Why 6 weeks long (usually 4)

    Sarms the first 4 weeks ?

    No need for HCG ?

    When do I need to do bloodwork ?
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    Test
    SHBG
    E2
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    Thanks

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    You should run a 6 week PCT, because 4 weeks isn't long enough for your body to really get it's test production fully going, which in turn means you lose gains coming off PCT too early. The SARMs are to help control your cortisol levels (the stress hormone) which spike when coming off of cycle and can take away from your gains. Never ever use HCG in PCT. It will make you feel good, but it will actually prevent you from recovering while you use it. You never need to use HCG at all, but if you do want to, you use it only in the last few weeks of your cycle itself. Finally, wait a few weeks after your PCT is finished to get your bloodwork done, and get a full hormone panel (generally the female hormone panel is fine).
    Last edited by P0N; 07-18-2019 at 01:07 PM.

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    Thanks man

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    No problem.

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    Last question, how long do I need to wait after the last injection (125mg E7D test cyp) to start PCT ?
    I would say no need to wait as it is low dose (not supraphysiological)

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    Wait two weeks after the last injection. It is a long ester, and it will still be at peak blood plasma concentration that long. If you start your PCT earlier (even though it was low dose test), you will just be putting your HPTA in a feedback loop, and you won't actually start recovering yet.

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