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Thread: Test E, VAR and Clen cycle

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    Test E, VAR and Clen cycle

    I have used this forum for many years to help me with my previous cycles, and decided to post for some help.

    This will be my 4th cycle, I started at the age of 25

    I will be doing a TEST E, VAR AND CLEN CYCLE, I need a little help and info as I have never done clen or var before.

    1st Cycle - Test E
    2nd Cycle - Test E and WINNY
    3rd Cycle - SUS and TREN

    Stats:
    5'10
    203lbs
    30 Y/0
    At 13% body fat

    Been lifting since 10th grade in high school and have always been active in sports. I was special operations in the military (Ranger) for 10 years, and got out 2 years ago to progress my boxing career. (Started boxing at 17 and throughout the mil)

    Goals: I would like to maintain around 200lb but cut a little more BF off, while maintaining strength, endurance and energy for boxing

    Ultimately, I would like to be at 10% BF and still have my continued strength and endurance for boxing.

    Workout Program: 6 days a week

    I do cardio or roadwork every morning before I head into my boxing gym, I am then ran through endurance training and multiple boxing drills from about 8 until 12 ie: Heavy work, speed bag, double end, footwork etc etc. I then go home and nap, and will then meet up later in the day at our weight gym for free weight and power training. I do not have a set routine as my coaches run me through the programs each day based on what they feel I need to work on. The weight training days are 3 to 4 times a week depending on how my drills go. But, boxing and roadwork is everyday.

    Diet:

    I have a pretty clean diet, I do not do desserts or candies. I do eat a lot of fruit for snacks to help with the hunger. Breakfast is usually very small do to how much I am working in the mornings, it usually consist of 3 boiled eggs and a banana, maybe a quick shake if im still hungry. The majority of the time I am eating Chicken with white or brown rice and mixed vegetables for lunch, then some type of steak with potatoes and mixed vegetables for dinner. Then before bed I have my casien protein shake right before I turn in for the night.

    I honestly do not know the calorie count and this is what I have been doing throughout my training as I dont feel as full going into my training sessions. Although I do feel out of energy a lot of the time.

    Cycle:

    The plan is that this cycle will help me push just a little harder with my weights and endurance training while also helping with some weight management.

    This will be a 10 week cycle going through the duration of my camp, I would like to come off at my peak right before I go into my matches.

    TEST E with a preload of 500mg for the first week divided between Monday and Thurs, then I will bump down to 300mg/w/split/ on Monday and Thurs

    Week 1 - 10
    TEST E - 300mg a week
    VAR - 70mg/ed

    Week 4-6
    CLEN - Starting dose at 20mg working up to 100mg/ed/ until end of week 6

    Week 8-10
    CLEN - 100mg/ed until end of cycle

    I was also thinking of running the VAR from weeks 2-10, giving me 8 weeks total on.


    Supports:

    Arimidex - .5mg eod from the start
    N2Guard for the VAR
    Fish Oil - 2000mg ed


    PCT: All on hand

    2 Bottles N2GenerateES
    3 Bottles Cardarine
    1 Bottle Ostarine
    Clomid
    Nolva



    Supplements:
    Pre workout
    Protein
    Multi vitamin (Animal)


    Final-

    Any input or anything that you would change is greatly appreciated. I am nowhere near a pro at this and any help or recommendations would be helpful. I have based all my previous cycles off of what I have read on these forums and look forward to seeing what everyone has to say.

    Thanks.

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    Be careful when dosing your clen and try not to take any other stims. Itís a lot of strain on your heart. Also make sure you monitor your sleep, maybe have something on hand if the clen causes insomnia. Good luck


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    OP, be carful with that anavar. Heard it's liver toxic.

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    i think it is all well laid out. my only suggestion is drop the clen. honestly you don't need it, just eat in a deficit .. it will destroy your boxing endurance bigtime. use GW instead, you will be glad you did
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    Plus you wanna drop only a few pounds, one or two percent etc but 'eat fruit to deal with the hunger'.

    Drop the fruit - be hungry - deal with it - get to where you wanna be.

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    Thank you to everyone who replied.

    I really appreciate the advice and help.

    As far as recommendations go:
    -Ill drop the clen and run Cardarine throughout my cycle
    -Ill drop the fruit, you're absolutely correct, be hungry and deal with it to get where you need to be.

    Thanks again to all for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayh3msHand View Post
    Thank you to everyone who replied.

    I really appreciate the advice and help.

    As far as recommendations go:
    -Ill drop the clen and run Cardarine throughout my cycle
    -Ill drop the fruit, you're absolutely correct, be hungry and deal with it to get where you need to be.

    Thanks again to all for the help
    Honestly man - if you're eating high water low calorie fruits like watermelon, fruit really isn't an issue. You are going to want to stay away from high calorie fruits like bananas but a cup of watermelon has less then 50 calories.

    I think fruit is great when dieting. It helps cut your sweet tooth and will help you stick to the diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayh3msHand View Post
    Thank you to everyone who replied.

    I really appreciate the advice and help.

    As far as recommendations go:
    -Ill drop the clen and run Cardarine throughout my cycle
    -Ill drop the fruit, you're absolutely correct, be hungry and deal with it to get where you need to be.

    Thanks again to all for the help
    i like your attitude and thats a wise decision bro.. clen is NOT worth it whatsoever... you cannot run it long term and what you get form it is not sustainable so its definitely not worth the likely long and short term damage to get absolutely nothing from it long term benefits wise... good decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by muskate View Post
    Honestly man - if you're eating high water low calorie fruits like watermelon, fruit really isn't an issue. You are going to want to stay away from high calorie fruits like bananas but a cup of watermelon has less then 50 calories.

    I think fruit is great when dieting. It helps cut your sweet tooth and will help you stick to the diet
    Excellent, that's great to hear and thank you for your advice.

    They keep a lot of watermelon, peaches and oranges on hand here, and that's where it was all coming from in between my meals. Its good to know I can still have something between my sessions.

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    Thanks dude,

    Like I said, I am nowhere near a professional with any of this, and I've always leaned on the Moderators throughout the years to guide with me my cycles.

    So any input you guys have is greatly appreciated and taken into effect.

    Thank you everyone for the advice on the Clen and the help with this cycle. Its very cool.

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    @muskate

    Thanks man, and that's great to hear.

    They keep a lot of watermelon, peaches and oranges on hand here, and that's where it was coming from in between my meals.

    Its nice to know I can continue to have something in between my sessions now.

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