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Thread: Thoughts on this setup?

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    Thoughts on this setup?

    Bear with me here, this may or may not be a novel idea and may or may not be wise. I can think of a few good reasons for bulking for the first 8-10 weeks of a cycle and then cutting for the last 2-4 weeks.

    It is some people's experience, including my own limited experience, that the gains slow down around the 8-10 week mark if nothing is changed i.e. dosages, calories, additional steroids, etc. And if it is a true bulking cycle, you will likely gain a little bodyfat during that 8-10 weeks if your calories are high enough to take every advantage of the gear. So why not cut calories down for the last 2-4 weeks of the cycle? You can cut those couple pounds of bf that you put on during the cycle and then starting cutting some of the fat you already had before the cycle, all without losing much if any muscle-mass that is typical of a caloric defecit.

    In essence, you take advantage of two different benefits of gear on one cycle. The ability to pack on serious strength and muscle, and the ability to cut fat while staying anabolic.

    Here's a simple example of what I mean.

    Week 1-5:
    Test p 700mgs/wk
    Dianabol 40mgs/day

    Weeks 6-8:
    Test p 700mgs/week.

    Weeks 9-12:
    Test p at 525mgs/wk
    Winny or var at 60mgs/day.

    Calories for weeks 1-8: 5000-6000 clean.
    Calories for weeks 9-12: 2750-3500 ultra-clean. Increase cardio as well.

    Obviously, this wouldn't work for a 6-8 week cycle, and there are a million variations of what gear to run when and how much. But what do you guys think about the concept that I've laid forth?

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    way too much test and dbol doesnt need to exceed 4 weeks nor 30 mg per day... there's no reason nor need to go over 500 mg of test...

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    If, and here's a thought, gains slow down at 8-10 weeks then that's why you might wanna keep a cycle short. Too many go 12-16 weeks.

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    I don't like it at all...

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    5000-6000 calories clean!? How ?? 3500 cal for cut? This is clean bulking cal intake.

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    hypothetically speaking if you were to eat 6000 calories a day you would put so much stress on your digestive health and gut that your entire body would become sick

    no human being should ever eat that much. just ask Rich Piana.

    it just shows how inneficient a person's body is that they would need that much food to function. the healthiest people on earth that live in the blue zones who live to 100 and never have diabetes, heart disease, obesity, stress, etc. eat between 0-2000 calories a day max.
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    Way too much test you can literally cut the dosage in half!

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    Tapering down test last 4 weeks doesnt make sense. You're just wasting gear at that point

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    750 to gram test pwk and var 30mg ED for the full cycle seems better.I really like bulking with high test also you really dont need that much calories bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEST* View Post
    750 to gram test pwk and var 30mg ED for the full cycle seems better.I really like bulking with high test also you really dont need that much calories bro
    True true Iím just getting contradicting advice on the test dosage....

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