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Thread: TRT and HCG- Why?

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    TRT and HCG- Why?

    I'm a little bit confused on this issue. I get why someone who is cycling and otherwise has good normal natty test levels would use HCG. Why would anyone- especially over 40ish guys use HCG during TRT, which if they are legit low on natural test, they are never going to come off of?
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    If they have a trt doc who knows his/her stuff, hcg promotes synthesis of pregnenolone which is a hormone that contributes to feelings of well-being. Testosterone injections will decrease pregnenolone production as the testes shut down. Also, a 40 year old may still want to have kids.

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    I'm on TRT and don't use HCG. I don't see the need at all, especially being that I'm done with having kids. I have 3 already

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    HCG replaces LH that TRT shuts down. Without HCG and LH the testes shrink, fertility declines, and pregnenalone production declines. Some say the testes are the single largest producer of pregnenalone, but I'm not sure this is accurate. I would like more information on this aspect of HCG use while on TRT.
    HCG simply provides LH to the receptors in the testes, filling in for some of the benefits lost while on TRT and the shutdown it causes.

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    youtube guru's say to do it I guess... there really isn't anything hcg does except plump up your nuts a little. natural herbals like hcgenerate do the same thing

    it doesn't aid men in fertility very much at all.. if you are worried bout fertility then don't stay on.. come off and recover.. when you stop taking it then LH is no longer mimicked and you crash. also it will spike estrogen levels
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    I'm wondering to what extent hcg use does backfill TRT induced pregnenalone deficiency. If it does enhance pregnenalone production then I am very interested in this. My last blood work showed pregnenalone at 18 ng/DL. Don't know if that is high or low because no reference range was given.
    Low dose AI is recommended while on TRT and HCG therapy.

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    My TRT doc has me on 100 mg TCyp per week and hcg at 1500 iu's per week, although I use 250 iu eod. Also take low dose exemestane as well.

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    I'm on Test P and Mast,Anavar, I believe I need to do HCG through the course of my cycle .My testes have locked down I think.How much HCG and how often please.Also does Proviron help in this case or not.Is there any use for Nolvadex while on cycle.I've always thought not.

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    I don't cycle, so really can't answer your ? But there is some useful info in the steroid profile section of Evo.

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    if you are on trt don't see y you would use HCG
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