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    Vets please help fine-tune this cycle

    Hello all, new member here, been reading for a month gathering info for a cycle, stuck on a few points, thought I'd post and see if any of the vets can please help me out. Respect you guys, Maskerote, Stevesmi, Wolf, et al. Thanks for any input.

    Quick stats:
    38/male
    Been lifting for 28 years
    5'11, 230 lbs, 18% bf
    Chest 51", Arms 18+", Legs 29", waist 38"
    Bloods good. No health problems aside from some joint issues.

    Cycle hx:
    Done 2 cycles.
    One was test e/dbol over 10 years ago.
    1 year ago I did a conservative anavar only cycle.

    Ready to step it up, but smart and safe. Cost is not an issue. Want to recomp, heavy on the cut, get the bf down to 10% if possible. Sick of being fat. Yes diet is the key, but I need some help. Already cut down from 250 prepping for this.

    These are the pieces I'm trying to fit together:

    - test e for the base, 500mg/week, dosing 250 twice/week.
    - Want to play it safe, will use the "Perfect PCT" from the sticky thread: HCGenerate, Cardarine, Clomid, Nolvadex, Aromasin, Ostarine, N2Guard. The whole shebang exactly as listed in the article.
    - That said, not sure how long to go. Is 8 weeks too conservative? 10? 12? Maybe 12 weeks once per year, versus 8 weeks twice per year? Do not want to see any baseline HPTA damage. Do not want permanent side effects, hair line, etc. Want to avoid harsh gear. No tren. No winny either (joint issues).
    - Anavar oral somewhere, 50mg/day dosed 25mg twice/day. I've read about limiting orals to 6-8 weeks to prevent liver damage. Even Anavar? Read it's easier on the liver. Use it as a finisher? Last 6 weeks or 8?
    - If Anavar is finisher, need a kicker. Been reading about eq. Good for recomp, not too harsh, but slow to start? What about double dose EQ at the start week 1, run it through, then Anavar finisher?
    - Alternatively, Anavar to start weeks 1-6/8, then masteron finisher? Maybe I'm too fat for that.
    - Clenbuterol. I'm thinking first 30 days.

    Thanks again

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    12 weeks max. i always recommend 10 weeks on longer cycles. the more i have looked at bloods over the years the more i have realized it is far more easier to recover from a 10 week or less cycle then going 12 weeks or more. 16-20 week cycles like that were recommended back in the 90's and 2000's have been proven to be extremely tough to recover from. those guys who pushed that are either dead or on trt right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toko View Post
    Hello all, new member here, been reading for a month gathering info for a cycle, stuck on a few points, thought I'd post and see if any of the vets can please help me out. Respect you guys, Maskerote, Stevesmi, Wolf, et al. Thanks for any input.

    Quick stats:
    38/male
    Been lifting for 28 years
    5'11, 230 lbs, 18% bf
    Chest 51", Arms 18+", Legs 29", waist 38"
    Bloods good. No health problems aside from some joint issues.

    Cycle hx:
    Done 2 cycles.
    One was test e/dbol over 10 years ago.
    1 year ago I did a conservative anavar only cycle.

    Ready to step it up, but smart and safe. Cost is not an issue. Want to recomp, heavy on the cut, get the bf down to 10% if possible. Sick of being fat. Yes diet is the key, but I need some help. Already cut down from 250 prepping for this.

    These are the pieces I'm trying to fit together:

    - test e for the base, 500mg/week, dosing 250 twice/week.
    - Want to play it safe, will use the "Perfect PCT" from the sticky thread: HCGenerate, Cardarine, Clomid, Nolvadex, Aromasin, Ostarine, N2Guard. The whole shebang exactly as listed in the article.
    - That said, not sure how long to go. Is 8 weeks too conservative? 10? 12? Maybe 12 weeks once per year, versus 8 weeks twice per year? Do not want to see any baseline HPTA damage. Do not want permanent side effects, hair line, etc. Want to avoid harsh gear. No tren. No winny either (joint issues).
    - Anavar oral somewhere, 50mg/day dosed 25mg twice/day. I've read about limiting orals to 6-8 weeks to prevent liver damage. Even Anavar? Read it's easier on the liver. Use it as a finisher? Last 6 weeks or 8?
    - If Anavar is finisher, need a kicker. Been reading about eq. Good for recomp, not too harsh, but slow to start? What about double dose EQ at the start week 1, run it through, then Anavar finisher?
    - Alternatively, Anavar to start weeks 1-6/8, then masteron finisher? Maybe I'm too fat for that.
    - Clenbuterol. I'm thinking first 30 days.

    Thanks again
    welcome to evo, good to see you start this off the smart way

    I say do this.

    week 1-12
    testosterone enanthate 500mgs/week 2 shots
    anavar 50mgs/day (week 1-8)
    n2guard 7caps ed
    aromasin 5mgs ed
    20mgs cardarine ed for cardio and lean

    and 12 week is right with the perfect pct

    with this cycle you must post a log journal for the community to help you more

    Please post a Log Journal asap for us

    Please click the anabolic forum
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...steroids-peds/
    top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
    click that

    in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
    ___ = the name of your log
    example: My testosterone anavar cycle Log
    in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

    here are examples of LOG Journals
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...log-86383.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...log-86174.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ear-85007.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...le!-84662.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...cle-85543.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...log-85141.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...log-83248.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...cle-85429.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...log-85538.html
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...cle-84184.html

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    bros 500mgs test enan 200mgs eq and 50mgs anavar with n2guard hit it and LOG it on EVO dont wait

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    just do testosterone and anavar no eq this time and slam in the n2guard
    i gotta see your log journal asap

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    you can kick with tbol. domestic supply has some solid tbol
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    bro why no tren? and yo using naps right?
    Best source is https://www.napsgear.org/


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    500mgs test
    200mgs eq
    50mgs anavar
    n2guard
    and 1 sarm

    and post a LOG for us to see
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    yup I agree with Quad some test and anavar no EQ for you
    LOG this bro log it

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    welcome to the game again
    we all vets
    test+anavar is what i want to see you do
    +LOG ASAP

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