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Thread: Why do certain PEDs shut you down and make you feel like crap?

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    Why do certain PEDs shut you down and make you feel like crap?

    I read people say don't do this certain cycle it will shut you down. Such as, don't do a oral only cycle (like me, I'm taking 20mg a day winstrol 3rd week and I'm starting to feel pretty bad).

    Why is it that my oral only cycle shuts me down compared to injecting testosterone with or without an oral? I'm confused how this works.

    Let's say I take 40mg of winstrol a day. Eventually this will shut my natural test down, right?

    Then lets say I take 500mg a week of test via injection.

    How does one "shut me down" but the other doesn't? If I'm injecting testosterone isn't that going to also shut me down even worse?!

    This is the one question that has confused the fuck out of me. What am I misunderstanding or not getting?

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    The winny just shuts me down below natural levels? Then why take it?

    The testosterone replaces my natural level and then some (probably doubling).

    Is that why? Something like that?

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    all steroids shut you down, first of all... orals make you feel ilke shit dude... common knowledge... why are you using steroids if you dont even know basic information about them??? TOXIC ORAL steroids make you feel like shit... toxicity hurts your liver, blood pressure, kidneys etc... you need to do FAR FAR more research about steroids in general.... testosterone shuts you down JUST LIKE an oral steroid does dude





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    I suppose my question was more geared towards the level of shutdown and what certain steroids 'make up for' the shutdown and replace and enhance the shutdown. If that makes sense. I know they all shut you down.

    I feel as though I don't have the medical vocabulary to get across what I'm saying or asking.

    Winstrol and testosterone are anabolic steroids.

    How does testosterone make me feel great and have excellent workouts and put all this mass on, even though it shuts me down, compared to winstrol which dries me out and makes me feel awful which also shuts me down?

    How are both of these anabolics not exactly equal? How can shut down be ok (such as test) in one sense but winstrol not in the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retlif93 View Post
    The winny just shuts me down below natural levels? Then why take it?

    The testosterone replaces my natural level and then some (probably doubling).

    Is that why? Something like that?
    You take them both. Test as a base and winny for hardening of the muscles. I assume you are cutting if not than winny is not the right choice because it is not that anabolic. I am on my second cycle but i have been reading about this stuff for the past year and I have still a lot of questions. My advice is do your research.

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    i already answered this question and you clearly didnt read it... winstrol is a TOXIC oral steroid... its altered with makes it methylated which needs to be done to allow it to pass through the liver when taken orally... testosterone is not methylated and doesnt carry those kind of sides... this isnt about suppression man, its about the toxicity... not to mention winstrol is not mild whatsoever... many people have trouble getting through a cycle of it... its my favorite oral in terms of what it accomplishes for me but i never feel very good on it after about 2-3 weeks...





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    Dylan has you covered.

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    Winstrol is liver toxic like Dylan said.

    Any steroid or prohormone will shit down your test production.

    The reason why people do not suggest oral only steroid cycles is that you are shut down but they donít raise your test levels. When you inject test it shuts down your natural production but you are replacing it with a higher level of exogenous test.

    Oral steroids donít replace your test levels you get shut down and essentially test goes to near 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylangemelli View Post
    all steroids shut you down, first of all... orals make you feel ilke shit dude... common knowledge... why are you using steroids if you dont even know basic information about them??? TOXIC ORAL steroids make you feel like shit... toxicity hurts your liver, blood pressure, kidneys etc... you need to do FAR FAR more research about steroids in general.... testosterone shuts you down JUST LIKE an oral steroid does dude
    More clear than this can't be.

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    Exactly so. It's the more toxic side effects of orals which make SOME feel rough compared to an injectable

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