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    Winter cycle

    Well, after a stop of about 6 months from anabolics steroid, in January I will start a new cycle trying to break the wall in front of me with my muscle mass.

    Usually I do a maximum of two cycles a year of 8/10 weeks, this time I want to try an 12 weeks cycle

    I'm planning this:

    1-12: E Test -> 450mg / week
    1-12: Tren E -> 300mg / week
    1-12: Proviron -> 50mg / day
    1-8: Tbol -> 50mg / day

    With:

    1-10: Cabergoline -> 0.25mg / every 3 days
    1-12: Aromasin -> 12.5mg / EOD

    PCT:

    1-4: Nolvadex -> 40mg / day
    1-4: Clomid -> 50mg / day
    5-8: Nolvadex -> 20mg / day
    5-8: Clomid -> 25mg / day

    For the entire duration of the cycle and PCT I will use the good old LIV52.

    I also have Winstrol, and initially I had thought of use 50mg a day in the last 4 weeks (8-12), but this would mean running an oral for the entire duration of the cycle ... so I removed it.

    My final question is if someone used tren-e / test-e in combo for 12 weeks and quickly can explain his experience.
    I am open to all suggestions.

    Thanks

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    you would feel far better in pct by lowering your SERM dosages and adding in n2generate
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    they ship to europe mate?

    and what about the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattew87 View Post
    they ship to europe mate?

    and what about the cycle?
    Yes they do. But let's have some stats.

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    32 years
    86kg
    height 1.82cm
    I have been training for 7 years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesmi View Post
    you would feel far better in pct by lowering your SERM dosages and adding in n2generate
    Maybe you speak about the dosage of nolvadex? because clomid is already low .. there are ppl who start from 100 or even 150mg a day ...

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    What about your body fat?

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    this photo is 6 months ago ... more or less.
    the percentage i don't know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattew87 View Post
    this photo is 6 months ago ... more or less.
    the percentage i don't know...

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    Damn. I would classify your bf as fucking good enough. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattew87 View Post
    32 years
    86kg
    height 1.82cm
    I have been training for 7 years...

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    Maybe you speak about the dosage of nolvadex? because clomid is already low .. there are ppl who start from 100 or even 150mg a day ...
    i am a proponent of low SERM dosages. i think people run too much. they have longer half lives than people think. so you really never have to run as much. low amounts will do the trick and yes n2bm ships to europe no problem. 100 or 150 a day of clomid is absurd, you can google all the horror stories of people who have ran that dosage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattew87 View Post
    Well, after a stop of about 6 months from anabolics steroid, in January I will start a new cycle trying to break the wall in front of me with my muscle mass.

    Usually I do a maximum of two cycles a year of 8/10 weeks, this time I want to try an 12 weeks cycle

    I'm planning this:

    1-12: E Test -> 450mg / week
    1-12: Tren E -> 300mg / week
    1-12: Proviron -> 50mg / day
    1-8: Tbol -> 50mg / day

    With:

    1-10: Cabergoline -> 0.25mg / every 3 days
    1-12: Aromasin -> 12.5mg / EOD

    PCT:

    1-4: Nolvadex -> 40mg / day
    1-4: Clomid -> 50mg / day
    5-8: Nolvadex -> 20mg / day
    5-8: Clomid -> 25mg / day

    For the entire duration of the cycle and PCT I will use the good old LIV52.

    I also have Winstrol, and initially I had thought of use 50mg a day in the last 4 weeks (8-12), but this would mean running an oral for the entire duration of the cycle ... so I removed it.

    My final question is if someone used tren-e / test-e in combo for 12 weeks and quickly can explain his experience.
    I am open to all suggestions.

    Thanks
    just a few small notes... i would not exceed 6 weeks of tbol... your dosing over all looks good... maybe lower test a bit but other than that, dosing looks good for the most part... you need protection along with tbol... i would get dga organ st to fully protect yourself and mitigate toxicity side effects... https://www.amazon.com/DGA-Nutraceut.../dp/B0762B5KBG


    when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.


    



clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
    
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 

    aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
    DGA ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

    mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
    
gw-501516 20 mg day esarms.com
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