Cruising and PCT!

[Naveed.Muhammad]

Hi guys,

I'm back with yet another question. In between my cycles I cruise on 250mg test a week, in this case is a PCT necessary at the end of my cycle? Specially if I notice some testicular atrophy?

Thank you as always for being so awesome!

 

[awm1981]

Hi guys,

I'm back with yet another question. In between my cycles I cruise on 250mg test a week, in this case is a PCT necessary at the end of my cycle? Specially if I notice some testicular atrophy?

Thank you as always for being so awesome!

No if you never get off gear no reason for PCT.

You can run HCG if you need to plump nuts up and reproduce but other than that nothing really.

 

[Naveed.Muhammad]

No if you never get off gear no reason for PCT.

You can run HCG if you need to plump nuts up and reproduce but other than that nothing really.

How much and for how many days?

 

[awm1981]

How much and for how many days?

HCG?

So typical dose is 500IUs twice a week. Normal vial is 5000 IUs so will last 5 weeks per vial.

It can aromatize so if you are gyno/estrogen prone and running an AI you would want to watch that.

I mean you can run it for as long as you like some guys get it with their TRT. Im not a huge fan but if you are trying to reproduce then it does help.

 

[stevesmi]

if you are running 250mg on a cruise then let's just call it what it is. you are just staying on year round. that is more than twice what your body will naturally produce

over time your health will decline and your life expectancy will drop

 

[Naveed.Muhammad]

HCG?

So typical dose is 500IUs twice a week. Normal vial is 5000 IUs so will last 5 weeks per vial.

It can aromatize so if you are gyno/estrogen prone and running an AI you would want to watch that.

I mean you can run it for as long as you like some guys get it with their TRT. Im not a huge fan but if you are trying to reproduce then it does help.

I used to because the doctor prescribed it but then someone experienced here told me that taking HCG regularly like that is not good for health so I stopped. I usually don't have a problem but I think because of Primo this time I've noticed shrinkage.

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if you are running 250mg on a cruise then let's just call it what it is. you are just staying on year round. that is more than twice what your body will naturally produce

over time your health will decline and your life expectancy will drop

Thanks for the advice, Steve but I'll have to respectfully disagree on this one

 

[dylangemelli]

I used to because the doctor prescribed it but then someone experienced here told me that taking HCG regularly like that is not good for health so I stopped. I usually don't have a problem but I think because of Primo this time I've noticed shrinkage.

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Thanks for the advice, Steve but I'll have to respectfully disagree on this one

you can respectfully disagree all you want but its clear you have zero clue what you are even doing man... its COMPLETELY FINE to ask questions and you absolutely should but for you to tell someone doing this over a decade as though you know what you are even talking about is not only ridiculous but disrespectful... 250 mg is NOT a trt dose... that IS staying on year round and THAT IS NOT healthy whatsoever... that would be something you may have to do with a very very severe issue with test levels at a certain time period but not long term... you dont have a clue what you are doing nor talking about

 

[gashred777]

I cruise at 150.....I’m about to turn 40. This puts me at 900 roughly.

 

[Topps_Baseball88]

I used to because the doctor prescribed it but then someone experienced here told me that taking HCG regularly like that is not good for health so I stopped. I usually don't have a problem but I think because of Primo this time I've noticed shrinkage.

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Thanks for the advice, Steve but I'll have to respectfully disagree on this one

Well when you get and enlarged prostate enlarged left ventricle and heart issues dont come back here crying asking for advice. You dug the grave and 250 is a damn cyle lol it is what it is, do some homework on Steve maybe watch one of his 100s of podcasts and u will see he knows his stuff

 

[ElevenBravo77]

I used to because the doctor prescribed it but then someone experienced here told me that taking HCG regularly like that is not good for health so I stopped. I usually don't have a problem but I think because of Primo this time I've noticed shrinkage.

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Thanks for the advice, Steve but I'll have to respectfully disagree on this one

Nothing wrong with disagreeing but at least know what you're talking about. 250mg is an unhealthy dose to run full time and I don't know many people who would disagree with that.

That dose has to put you close to if not over twice natural production levels as Steve said.

I know everyone reacts differently to Test but 100mg to 150mg is a true TRT dose for most people, and many get results on less

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks for the advice, Steve but I'll have to respectfully disagree on this one

are you disagreeing with the fact that you are running too high of a cruise dose or that you can have significant health risks or both?

you can simply run bloodwork to confirm the first one and the 2nd well i can promise you that you will increase your chances of cholesterol problems, stroke, prostate issues, other DHT issues like head hair loss, and a domino effect of other organ related problems by abusing steroids. i would strongly recommend you drop your dosage closer to 100mg a week for your cruise if you want to do it healthy

 

[Mobster]

Hi guys,

I'm back with yet another question. In between my cycles I cruise on 250mg test a week, in this case is a PCT necessary at the end of my cycle? Specially if I notice some testicular atrophy?

Thank you as always for being so awesome!

Being on non-stop... I'd say that's a given

 

[Naveed.Muhammad]

are you disagreeing with the fact that you are running too high of a cruise dose or that you can have significant health risks or both?

you can simply run bloodwork to confirm the first one and the 2nd well i can promise you that you will increase your chances of cholesterol problems, stroke, prostate issues, other DHT issues like head hair loss, and a domino effect of other organ related problems by abusing steroids. i would strongly recommend you drop your dosage closer to 100mg a week for your cruise if you want to do it healthy

Thanks, Steve. First of all I want to say everyone who went on a rant that I never said I'm doing TRT in my original question. I only referred to TRT when a fellow user made a comment that guys on TRT use HCG to which I responded that I 'used' to do it when the doctor had prescribed it. But I decided to do a full cycle and come off of TRT and then in between cycles I was going to use 250mg/week as I've seen and read that on other forums. After reading all you guys' comments I can definitely drop my dose to a 100/150 mg a week.

I was just merely saying that death or life expectancy has nothing to do with what you eat etc. When it's your, it's you time! As we've all seen smokers and alcohol consumers have far out lived those who never smoke or drank. I am trying to be careful and that's the whole reason for being here and asking questions.

I appreciate all of you guys' your advice, suggestions, and concern.

Respectfully!

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I cruise at 150.....I’m about to turn 40. This puts me at 900 roughly.

I just turned 40 last month!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ that is your business man. but just remember what i am telling you, cruising at too high dose is going to over time become counter productive to your fitness goals.

5 or 10 years ago if i said this on forums people would get upset and flame me for it, but thanks to people getting bloodwork done and seeing how fast excessive exogenous hormones will throw off bloodwork i've been proven right over and over. check the other thread where a member posted their bloodwork while on even 125mg of test a week. even in his case he is running too much, you are running twice that! i would love for you to get bloodwork done and we can go over all the strain your organs are under

if you want to blast and cruise that is fine, but at the very least when you do cruise go back to a level that is balanced.. otherwise as i said in my first post in this thread you are just staying on, that isn't actually cruising. hope that makes sense

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

The best thing you can do for overall health is to come off completely between cycles and run a comprehensive PCT. I would not do more than 2 cycles per year max.

 

[Naveed.Muhammad]

^^^ that is your business man. but just remember what i am telling you, cruising at too high dose is going to over time become counter productive to your fitness goals.

5 or 10 years ago if i said this on forums people would get upset and flame me for it, but thanks to people getting bloodwork done and seeing how fast excessive exogenous hormones will throw off bloodwork i've been proven right over and over. check the other thread where a member posted their bloodwork while on even 125mg of test a week. even in his case he is running too much, you are running twice that! i would love for you to get bloodwork done and we can go over all the strain your organs are under

if you want to blast and cruise that is fine, but at the very least when you do cruise go back to a level that is balanced.. otherwise as i said in my first post in this thread you are just staying on, that isn't actually cruising. hope that makes sense

Thank you again, Steve. I'll go down to 100 mg a week and do another blood test in a couple of months.

 

[Tazz]

TRT last resort..

 

[Mobster]

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