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BigBry

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So ran a low test only cycle that ended in August. Pct with HCG and nolva. Didn’t touch a AI at all through out the whole process. Nipples are sensitive and breasts feel more fuller, no visible signs of gyno and no hard lumps. Blood work came back good for everything minus the estrogen was in range but on the higher side. Started taking 25mg of nolv every other day (started Sunday). I have Aromasin on had as well. Thoughts on what to do here guys? How long to run nolva and aromasin for and at how much. Don’t want to crash estrogen just get it lower and back to pre cycle levels. Thanks a million guys. Love this site.
 
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Just for future reference, this is why I have embedded this into peoples' heads about NOT EVER using hcg in pct... aside from the fact its suppressive, it also increases estrogen and you didnt use aromasin in pct, which only increased the issue, as you can clearly see... Use this as a learning experience and never make this mistake again...

nolvadex is only a suppressor and DOES NOT stop estrogen, it only holds it over but it can rebound once you stop.. aromasin is what you want for higher estrogen.. a few weeks at 12.5 mg eod should get it lower for you and not crush it
 
I have always followed the never use HCG in PCT protocol and that certainly was an issue for you by using it during your PCT, which you should avoid doing in the future
 
dylangemelli said:
Just for future reference, this is why I have embedded this into peoples' heads about NOT EVER using hcg in pct... aside from the fact its suppressive, it also increases estrogen and you didnt use aromasin in pct, which only increased the issue, as you can clearly see... Use this as a learning experience and never make this mistake again...

nolvadex is only a suppressor and DOES NOT stop estrogen, it only holds it over but it can rebound once you stop.. aromasin is what you want for higher estrogen.. a few weeks at 12.5 mg eod should get it lower for you and not crush it
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Even though I am currently off cycle I can run that much aromasin?

Guys once again thanks for the help, have learned a lot of this page.
 
BigBry said:
So ran a low test only cycle that ended in August. Pct with HCG and nolva. Didn’t touch a AI at all through out the whole process. Nipples are sensitive and breasts feel more fuller, no visible signs of gyno and no hard lumps. Blood work came back good for everything minus the estrogen was in range but on the higher side. Started taking 25mg of nolv every other day (started Sunday). I have Aromasin on had as well. Thoughts on what to do here guys? How long to run nolva and aromasin for and at how much. Don’t want to crash estrogen just get it lower and back to pre cycle levels. Thanks a million guys. Love this site.
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@BigBry first of all your estrogen E2 is NOT high, it is within range the same can be said about your progesterone
but your cortisol levls are high,anything over 300-350 nmol/L is high yes i know its within range but its high

if you take tamoxifen now you might be doing more harm than good
i'd like to see 1 more test, your prolactin and LH tested
can you do a Prolactin + LH test for us? any FSH/T3/T4 if you can

meanwhile, dont take anything or add anything, just stick to taking your organ liver support and start a LOG journal for us
why? well high cortisol is usually related to post-PCT stress training and improper eating also so what I'd like to see is your LOG journal in a NEW thread where you share your Training diet supplements sleep schedule and cardio and more about you, actual details in a NEW thread, this way we can help you with your hormones and getting results too full guidance needs a FULL log

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

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BigBry said:
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dylangemelli said:
Why do u feel the need to run an AI when you are in range is where im confused
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Sorry my pre cycle estrogen was 88 compared to right now being at 121. Nipples feel sensitive and chest feels fuller and itchy. Figured I could try and get it back down to pre cycle numbers. Cycle ended back in July (test only).
 
you also need to have your LH and FSH checked in the future. these indicate the health of your pituitary glands are a very vital to knowing how you recover from each cycle

hcg is a huge no-no especially in pct. it does a good job of firing up your leydig cells but it also suppresses your pituitary glands and will increase progesterone
 
BigBry said:
Sorry my pre cycle estrogen was 88 compared to right now being at 121. Nipples feel sensitive and chest feels fuller and itchy. Figured I could try and get it back down to pre cycle numbers. Cycle ended back in July (test only).
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you could low dose aromasin then, 6.25 mg every other day a few weeks and that should knock it back down
 
you need to get up a log
this way we can take a look at your blood work and really understand where you're coming from with everything
 
a log Journal will allow us to see your full diet and full training
it will also allow us to guide you and show you exactly how to get the most out of your Cycles in the future
 
what do you mean by you ran a low test cycle what does that mean?
Whether you use 100 mg or 300 milligrams or 1000 mg it's still going to shut you down the same
 
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check out the other logs that guys and gals are doing and how successful they've been because they get full guidance for free everyday
 
we want to help you get the most out of your next cycle and do it the right way from the start
something was definitely wrong if you were getting nipple issues on such a tiny amount of gear
 
BigBry said:
So ran a low test only cycle that ended in August. Pct with HCG and nolva. Didn’t touch a AI at all through out the whole process. Nipples are sensitive and breasts feel more fuller, no visible signs of gyno and no hard lumps. Blood work came back good for everything minus the estrogen was in range but on the higher side. Started taking 25mg of nolv every other day (started Sunday). I have Aromasin on had as well. Thoughts on what to do here guys? How long to run nolva and aromasin for and at how much. Don’t want to crash estrogen just get it lower and back to pre cycle levels. Thanks a million guys. Love this site.
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I would take 20mg nolva a day with 6.25mg aromasin e3d take hcgenerate as well. gotta get E under control
 
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