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Cycle Log- Tren/Primo/GW

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Ok finalized my new cycle. 2nd time using tren, but first time using tren E (first time was ace for just 5 weeks). Really counting on the GW to lower tren sides, i cant go 12 weeks on tren if its like the last time and had to bail at 5 weeks on ace. Threw in the primo since its mild and should add nice quality gains.

Goal is 7-10 totally dry lbs after all the dust settles after the cycle. I think thats very reasonable.
39
5'10"
205
15%

Week----Tren E-----------Primo----------Lipid Stabil-----Caber------------GW----Fish oil--------Taurine
1-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
2-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
3-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
4-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
5-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
6-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
7-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
8-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
9-------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
10------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
11------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
12------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED

I raise the dose of tren at week 9 to 400mg to combat myostatin even though ive been on HRT and myostatin should not be an issue but you never know, so its just in case.
 
Good luck buddy. I really think you're going to like the tren E much better than ace. Been on E for about 7-8 weeks now and it has been the best cycle I've done to date. I'm running it with GW too so it's really helping to keep sides low. Get some good taurine too if you didn't already
 
Bro good luck with your cycle, I love it you going to gain good quality muscle with no water retention
 
I think you should at least keep your test in there at the dose your are running.

You can run a cycle without Test just fine. Usually, the problems that come with libido and other issues associated shutdown arise a few weeks into cycle, when your own natural test production is at 0. Going from HRT to a no Test cycle means that your body is already shutdown, so problems will arise more quickly.

The caber will help, but it won't fix everything if you start experiencing problems.
 
In bro..Tren is one that I want to try but havent yet. Id like to see how the long eater treats you

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You don't need a lot of test. When are you pinning the Tren and Primo? how many times a week? Id Toss in some prop 3x a week 150 - 300mg a week...just saying
 
JDawg414 said:
You don't need a lot of test. When are you pinning the Tren and Primo? how many times a week? Id Toss in some prop 3x a week 150 - 300mg a week...just saying
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twice week for both

gonna pass on the prop, i dont want too much pinning on this one
 
Shrine said:
In bro..Tren is one that I want to try but havent yet. Id like to see how the long eater treats you

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holy fuck it blows everything else out the water bro

Ive run ace once for only 5 weeks since it was so fucking strong had to quit and didnt know about GW. Made more gains on that cycle then any other twice as long
 
Last time i Ran Tren was acetate. I was doing 500mgs Prop, 300mgs Tren a, and 300mgs masteron a week, Var and Gh. I was a very very strong, mean, cut man. Those were the days.
 
I'm going to make a big order from robolic I hear they tren e , test c are very good quality and you know me bro I love good stuff
 
Not sure if you guys are familiar. But I've tried tren from the following sources MZ's, SM, EK, UGF, and UGF's ultra ripped blend Tp/TrenA/Masteron was on point. I won't ever do a cycle without tren. It is just that damn good. Next cycle will be Test Susp, Test Enan, Tren Ace, Tren Enan, Masteron, Var, Gh, and some Sarms. It will happen soon. Just planning it all out.
 
I'm planing to run tren e,test c from robolic plus propionate,masteron ,seros and slim I'm going to gain A few pound but quality gain with the help of the tren
 
paja said:
I'm planing to run tren e,test c from robolic plus propionate,masteron ,seros and slim I'm going to gain A few pound but quality gain with the help of the tren
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No Tren A? I'd toss it in there. I gained a serious amount of quality gains, with lil bloat, and kept almost all of it. Tren Is my hero.
 
-SD- said:
I turn 40 this year rob, dont know how much more of this i can put myself through so lets find out
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SD...you're almost my age. For some reason I thought you were so much younger! ;)

Gonna be following your log for sure.
 
-SD- said:
No, i thought this myth was dispelled already? Tren is 3-5X more androgenic than test so its not needed and will only cause more sides.
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I would use a trt dose of test with any cycle regardless. Its not for muscle building purposes. Its for libido, energy levels, quality of life, etc. I tried doing mast and tren without test for about a week and I felt like complete shit, tired with no libido until I started on test again. Just 100-150mg is plenty. I love the tren and primo combo with gw though. Should be a sweet cycle. Def in for this log.
 
Went up one rep on every set for chest and delts today, pretty good for just 5 days in. Probably not because of the gear, too soon i think. But who knows.
 
Lol SD I'm 40 and I feel better than any young man in my gym lol they call me the beast cause I don't talk and I only rest 35-45 seconds between sets you not old bro you are a good inspiration to the youngers brothers here
 
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Maybe they call you the beast because youre bigger than a grizzly and stronger than a fucking bull LOL

Im starting to get old man strength i think

or maybe thats the gear hahahahaha
 
-SD- said:
Maybe they call you the beast because youre bigger than a grizzly and stronger than a fucking bull LOL

Im starting to get old man strength i think

or maybe thats the gear hahahahaha
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Lol maybe you need a vacation bro, just relax and enjoy life with the family and will feel better
 
Do you feel more swolt yet? Another week or two and you should really be feeling the awesomeness
 
-SD- said:
No, i thought this myth was dispelled already? Tren is 3-5X more androgenic than test so its not needed and will only cause more sides.
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I'm no expert but when I ran tren hex at 275 a week and sust at 350 a week (I think, it was a while ago) I still experienced loss of libido.. although, didn't run ancillarys at all... maybe caber will help but I thought that was just for managing prolactin? ...might consider adding vit b as well bro

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addcd2gains said:
I'm no expert but when I ran tren hex at 275 a week and sust at 350 a week (I think, it was a while ago) I still experienced loss of libido.. although, didn't run ancillarys at all... maybe caber will help but I thought that was just for managing prolactin? ...might consider adding vit b as well bro

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Well you had multiple issues there that contributed to your loss of libido. No A.I. allowed your estrogen to skyrocket which is a libido killer just as much as low estrogen is. Also, the whole point of controlling prolactin isn't just for lactating nipples, it's for libido function. High prolactin does a better job at killing your libido than high/low estrogen. Ever heard of deca dick? That's a prolactin issue
 
jbranken said:
Well you had multiple issues there that contributed to your loss of libido. No A.I. allowed your estrogen to skyrocket which is a libido killer just as much as low estrogen is. Also, the whole point of controlling prolactin isn't just for lactating nipples, it's for libido function. High prolactin does a better job at killing your libido than high/low estrogen. Ever heard of deca dick? That's a prolactin issue
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Ahh yeah I know I was an idiot for not running caber.. I didn't know about it at the time. I've leaned a lot since then. So you think tren can be ran without test if proper ancillarys are used?

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addcd2gains said:
Ahh yeah I know I was an idiot for not running caber.. I didn't know about it at the time. I've leaned a lot since then. So you think tren can be ran without test if proper ancillarys are used?

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Absolutely. But, never forget how different we all are. Some guys may lose all libido and feel like complete shit without test. This one comes down to trial and error. No cookie cutter equations for steroid use unfortunately
 
jbranken said:
Absolutely. But, never forget how different we all are. Some guys may lose all libido and feel like complete shit without test. This one comes down to trial and error. No cookie cutter equations for steroid use unfortunately
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Good words

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SD, how you feeling dogg?

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Day 6

Improved recovery, much less soreness from last night workout even though i increased all sets by one rep for whole workout. Barely sore this morning. Other than that feel fine, no lethargy.
 
-SD- said:
Day 6

Improved recovery, much less soreness from last night workout even though i increased all sets by one rep for whole workout. Barely sore this morning. Other than that feel fine, no lethargy.
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Nice... cant wait till the tren kicks in

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I know a few brothers order from robolic and only took 2-3 days delivery fast and good customer services
 
please keep us updated on how the gw helps.. very very interested to see more results and logs on this /
 
Day 12
up 5 lbs
strength steadily going up
Had some lethargy this morning but cleared up once in the gym
Starting to get that tren feeling, little insomnia, little bit night sweat etc
 
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-SD- said:
Day 12
up 5 lbs
strength steadily going up
Had some lethargy this morning but cleared up once in the gym
Starting to get that tren feeling, little insomnia, little bit night sweat etc
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I'd pick up some melatonin bro... aids in sleep and in recovery. (Although in the shadow of tren, it's just for sleep lol)

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-SD- said:
Ok finalized my new cycle. 2nd time using tren, but first time using tren E (first time was ace for just 5 weeks). Really counting on the GW to lower tren sides, i cant go 12 weeks on tren if its like the last time and had to bail at 5 weeks on ace. Threw in the primo since its mild and should add nice quality gains.

Goal is 7-10 totally dry lbs after all the dust settles after the cycle. I think thats very reasonable.
39
5'10"
205
15%

Week----Tren E-----------Primo----------Lipid Stabil-----Caber------------GW----Fish oil--------Taurine
1-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
2-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
3-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
4-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
5-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
6-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
7-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
8-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
9-------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
10------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
11------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
12------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED

I raise the dose of tren at week 9 to 400mg to combat myostatin even though ive been on HRT and myostatin should not be an issue but you never know, so its just in case.
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I remember your 1st tren log and I followed it closely. I'm glad you're running some of that GW.
 
Solid back workout, strength up across the board

lower back started to flare up at the end and on drive home, damn thats not a good sign
 
Also, valerian root is an amazing, totally non habbit forming sleep aid. It really is amazing, I take it when I need to fight jetlag and it works like a charm

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ok two weeks now

Strong as shit but been a zombie for a few days and think i need to lower tren to 200mg week. Feel like a pussy but i am not going to go through last time with ace. i gotta be able to think throughout the day and sleep at night, etc. I dont care if the gains are less or slower.
 
JDawg414 said:
Not sure if you guys are familiar. But I've tried tren from the following sources MZ's, SM, EK, UGF, and UGF's ultra ripped blend Tp/TrenA/Masteron was on point. I won't ever do a cycle without tren. It is just that damn good. Next cycle will be Test Susp, Test Enan, Tren Ace, Tren Enan, Masteron, Var, Gh, and some Sarms. It will happen soon. Just planning it all out.
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How do you combine the tren ace with the tren enan? Start out with tren ace, wait to see if sides are acceptable, then switch to enanthate?
 
You could use the ace as a jumpstart just like dbol or something

tren is good as fuck but harsh sometimes
 
-SD- said:
You could use the ace as a jumpstart just like dbol or something

tren is good as fuck but harsh sometimes
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I started my current cycle of tren E at 200mg and slowly built up to 450+. This seriously helped negate the sides man, give it a try
 
Day 17 and up 10 lbs to 215, great strength but lethargy is hitting again and got tren cough. Im thinking i gotta wait a week or so for the lower dose of 200mg to lessen the effect, (hopefully)
I really wish i just started the whole thing at 200mg lol
oh well its all a learning process
 
-SD- said:
Day 17 and up 10 lbs to 215, great strength but lethargy is hitting again and got tren cough. Im thinking i gotta wait a week or so for the lower dose of 200mg to lessen the effect, (hopefully)
I really wish i just started the whole thing at 200mg lol
oh well its all a learning process
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Do you think GW is helping with the lethargy at all bro?

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-SD- said:
Day 17 and up 10 lbs to 215, great strength but lethargy is hitting again and got tren cough. Im thinking i gotta wait a week or so for the lower dose of 200mg to lessen the effect, (hopefully)
I really wish i just started the whole thing at 200mg lol
oh well its all a learning process
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I can't believe you got tren cough with enanthate! It hasn't happened to me
 
I dont know if its tren cough or just a sore throat that just happens to be going on right now with all the fucked up weather and allergies i get already.
 
SD, I feel like tren dont like you to much dogg. Send me your leftovers

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addcd2gains said:
Do you think GW is helping with the lethargy at all bro?

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It helps in the gym but the rest of the day no. I dont think GW is made for all day relief of something like tren sides but it helps if taken before training.
 
-SD- said:
I dont know if its tren cough or just a sore throat that just happens to be going on right now with all the fucked up weather and allergies i get already.
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Tren make me cough a lot bro lol and a lot night sweat lol but I love it bro you are running tren a????
 
its been brought to my attention i may have hypothyroidism caused by tren

symptoms all match

gonna have bloods done this week to rule that in or out
 
Hopefully not man.. damn

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Fizz told me about it but its just temporary
Fixed with T3 but dont know if i want to go that route

Might just dump tren and add deca and test if i cant find the sweet spot for tren dose
 
The bottom line is that trenbolone can definitely decrease your thyroid function. I know there's a lot of bros who really enjoy trenbolone. Any compound can have different effects on different brothers. I know I run EQ and get diced up. I know it's not fake because it comes from a trusted source and EQ is not that expensive anyway. Other guys have reported bloat and uncontrollable appetite. I know of guys who are very calm and have completely changed their demeanor on tren. Whenever I hear stories of a guy losing control, I always say that it was simply a little jerk taking a compound and becoming a bigger jerk. Tren may be the exception emotionally. It can also be the exception physiologically. It's without any question one of the harshest injectable compounds. There's always a possibility to get flamed for talking negatively and I have the same view about EQ, but I strongly believe that trenbolone is a subjective compound. It's a temporary Russian Roulette. It may give you unbearable tren cough and trensomnia and I may be able to run it, grow, recomp and sleep like a baby and fuq like a pornstar. I know for a fact that you're a good bro from elite and on here and it may just be a compound that doesn't work with you. Running primo and EQ with low test and the GW; almost the Dylan Gemelli Cycle, may be a better alternative.
 
Well hell i got no reason to lie about the effects of any particular AAS on me

The whole point is getting feedback and learning process since were all different in our own ways
 
-SD- said:
Well hell i got no reason to lie about the effects of any particular AAS on me

The whole point is getting feedback and learning process since were all different in our own ways
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Roger that brother. I'm just saying that you may be one of the guys who just simply can't run the compound.
 
-SD- said:
I dont know if its tren cough or just a sore throat that just happens to be going on right now with all the fucked up weather and allergies i get already.
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Hah if you got tren cough you know it. I actually got it today. Its the cough of death. Like no other cough...
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
Roger that brother. I'm just saying that you may be one of the guys who just simply can't run the compound.
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Yes thats definitely a possibility but not the end of the world. Plenty of other good drugs and combos to be had. The only real downside to me would not being able to have trens fat burning ability
 
-SD- said:
Yes thats definitely a possibility but not the end of the world. Plenty of other good drugs and combos to be had. The only real downside to me would not being able to have trens fat burning ability
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I am in the same boat as you good bro. I want to run it but I'm a little concerned about losing my cool with it. I ran an extremely low dose with it but had a few circumstances where I was pinned in a corner and I was just way more alpha than usual and I'm not sure if it's a good idea considering my career and personal life.


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fizzisnumerouno said:
I am in the same boat as you good bro. I want to run it but I'm a little concerned about losing my cool with it. I ran an extremely low dose with it but had a few circumstances where I was pinned in a corner and I was just way more alpha than usual and I'm not sure if it's a good idea considering my career and personal life.


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yea not to mention the mood swings of course, but the lethargy is waht causes that for me.

just got my blood drawn so gonna find out if this is thyroid related or not. T3 is cheap from what i saw at ag-guys so if i can get some fast shipping then this cycle can be salvaged afterall.
 
-SD- said:
yea not to mention the mood swings of course, but the lethargy is waht causes that for me.

just got my blood drawn so gonna find out if this is thyroid related or not. T3 is cheap from what i saw at ag-guys so if i can get some fast shipping then this cycle can be salvaged afterall.
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It may be worthwhile to take one more stab with 25 mics or less/day. 12.5 is a good start point.


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Day 20
Feeling better after lowering the tren dose
should have blood results in a day or two so i can know if tren is suppressing my thyroid or not. Im ready to pull the trigger on some T3 at ag-guys if so. Just gonna run 12.5mcg/day just to combat lethargy, i dont need the fat loss from T3 since tren is good enough for that plus to much T3 eats muscle
 
Ok just got bloods results and thyroid is off.

T3 Uptake 43% HIGH (24-39 %)

Looks like theres some T3 in my future afterall.

Thanks to Fizz for bringing this up. I never would have thought of that in a million years and would have probably ended up quitting the tren altogether.

Not out of the woods yet though since the T3 i get actually has to improve the lethargy, which is the whole point.
 
I wouldn't pay TOO much mind to what the blood tests show for your thyroid. You should get the bloods done off cycle next time. You're already using tren which could easily throw off your thyroid numbers
 
jbranken said:
I wouldn't pay TOO much mind to what the blood tests show for your thyroid. You should get the bloods done off cycle next time. You're already using tren which could easily throw off your thyroid numbers
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I know thats the whole point. Im trying to figure out the lethargy caused by tren, which in this case is thyroid affected. Off cycle I dont have this problem obviously
 
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