Trying to piece together a cycle.

[Mpots7]

I'm fairly new to posting on forums while I have had experience running a few cycles. I came across a source having a sale and couldn't help my self with getting a few things. I'm 25, 178lbs 10% body fat. I'm currently running 100mgs a week of test cyp, prescribed by my doctor for trt. I've had erection issues since i was 16 and tried everything under the sun trying to fix the issue naturally. Long story short I in fact had low test. So from there on I said if I have to be on steroids I minds well take it to another level. I'm a personal trainer and have been training since I've been about 13. I've educated my self on steroids ever since I had noticed my erection problems were becoming more apparent. Seeing as at some point I'd have to take them.
Moving on from that. ive ran an all oral anadrol/dbol cycle, test e only cycle 250mg/e3d, test e 250mg/e3d with primo e 300mg/per week, test e 250mg/per week with tren a 25 mg/eod seeing as I've never ran tren and was intimidated with everything I heard. Then I ran test,dec,bold which I must say had to of been one of the best cycles I've done. Since then I've been holding off doing research looking for lean permanent gains.
I know I've read constantly there's nothing that'll make permanent gains. But if you continue dieting with working out and following post cycle therapy. Gains have to be kept.
So the hormones I've acquired are as follows. Masteron E-4000mg, boldenone-6000mg, tren a- 2900mg
Test cyp-7250mg, test no ester-2900mg, test prop-2900mg. At the moment tamox, anastroazle, and Proviron. Hcg and possibly caber, with maybe the addition of npp.
I'm not going to use all these in one cycle. I'm just looking for some input on what would be the best options.
I was thinking an 8 week cycle
test cyp 250 mg/e3d
Boldenone 300mg week
Tren a 150mg per week.

Honest input only not looking for people to come on bashing. I'm looking for real answers and opinions rather than ego raging assholes. I always think if you can use less and get great gains why destroy my self anymore. Seeing as I already have to be on trt.

 

[muskate]

Test + eq + tren is a really good lean mass cycle and I like the dosages you have outlined - however I would increase the cycle duration from 8 weeks to 12-16 weeks. Building muscle is a slow process.

You are going to need to add an AI to your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. You are also going to need cabergoline for prolactin support.
Cardarine GW is a great addition to any cycle with tren to increase fat loss, endurance, recovery and prevent tren related side effects. Read up on it more here: http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/

I wouldn't use HCG with your cycle. HCG is some nasty stuff. It actually raises estrogen levels and often is what CAUSES the gyno people experience from their cycle. Read this: http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/
If you are on TRT - your system is already suppressed. HCG is going to do anything.

Here's what I recommend.

test cyp 250 mg/e3d
Boldenone 300mg week
Tren a 150mg per week.
aromasin 10mg EOD <- ag-guys.com
cabergoline 0.5mg E3D <- ag-guys.com
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM) <- sarms1.com

 

[Mpots7]

I have anastroazle, from my personal experience it's easier to dose seeing as I believe to build muscle you do have to have some estrogen in the equation of I'm not correct. But if you think exem is a better choice I'll definitely pick that up.

caber is definitely going to be added. Regardless of sides or not prolactin builds in the body regardless from what you see or experience in sides. And as gw goes I can see how that would be beneficial tren makes cardio barely possible from my experience id end up doing ten mins and be like oh f$ck.

What's your experience with sarms. I haven't gotten into them but I've researched them. I assumed with a proper pct you wouldn't necessarily need them. But from what people say they seem pretty decent. My main concern is sex drive as it's always been an issue. Except when I was doing minimal test only adding an anti aromitser. That's why I stocked up on Proviron. And worse case add some mast, but I was thinking of saving that for a later cycle. But I'm always open to be educated.

 

[s-tren-gth]

You don't mention if you made any cycles before.
To me it looks good for a second or third cycle maybe too harsh for a beginner
But it looks ok overall.

 

[Mpots7]

@s-tren-gh I've ran a few cycles it's mentioned halfway through the first paragraph. As for making them. I've only did test and primo, tren and test. But I've ran an all oral and deca,test,bold cycle that was my favorite by far. Those two were pre made though. I'm looking for input if you've had experience and would recommend something different feel free to chime in. I think that lower doses seem to work well but then again I've never gotten all crazy.
Libido seems to be the key for me. Or lack of libido. Haha I'm not trying to get huge just maybe to 200 lbs within a year. But I'd like it to be maintainable gains. I understand not all gains will be kept. And from all the research and reading all I've heard is after steroid use you lose all your gains. But no one talks about if you keep up your diet and training. They just say when you stop both. And to me it's a no brainier of course if you're not lifting or eating you're going to lose your gains.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I like your cycle but as Muskate said, you need to run EQ at least 16 weeks in my opinion. You could either extend the cycle or just save the EQ for the next run.

 

[s-tren-gth]

@s-tren-gh I've ran a few cycles it's mentioned halfway through the first paragraph. As for making them. I've only did test and primo, tren and test. But I've ran an all oral and deca,test,bold cycle that was my favorite by far. Those two were pre made though. I'm looking for input if you've had experience and would recommend something different feel free to chime in. I think that lower doses seem to work well but then again I've never gotten all crazy.
Libido seems to be the key for me. Or lack of libido. Haha I'm not trying to get huge just maybe to 200 lbs within a year. But I'd like it to be maintainable gains. I understand not all gains will be kept. And from all the research and reading all I've heard is after steroid use you lose all your gains. But no one talks about if you keep up your diet and training. They just say when you stop both. And to me it's a no brainier of course if you're not lifting or eating you're going to lose your gains.

Sorry about it I was drowsy last night.
Prop and TNE are overkill IMO but you already bought them

For ease of calculation I thought about dividing everything by 10 to make the cycle last 10 weeks but it yielded
Masteron E-400mg/w, boldenone-600mg/w, tren a- 290mg/w Test cyp-725mg, test no ester-290mg, test prop-290mg.
About 2.5 grams per week
That's too much

So using half of that
Masteron E-200mg, boldenone-300mg, tren a- 145mg Test cyp-362.5mg, test no ester-145mg, test prop-145mg. For 10 weeks and save the rest for the next cycle.
That's a really good cycle without even planning too hard
I'd use just 1/4 of a Letro tab EOD as too much AIs can actually kill libido.

 

[Mpots7]

I may save the other esters of test for a different cycle I seen great things about test no ester as for sex drive and such. The plan was just to save that for days where I know sexual activity may go on. Or preworkout on days where I have no motivation. As for the prop it'll probably be a jump start but seeing as I'm already on test cyp and have been my blood levels are pretty saturated with it. I don't know if it's necessary. How familiar are you with Hgh or peps. In regards to them. I'd be looking to gain new muscle cells I'm not interested in a fat loss dosage, but from what I've read people say anything under 5 ius is wasting money. But let's say you'd run 3 or 4 ius a year. At that point wouldn't you think new muscle cells would appear

 

[Mpots7]

Test + eq + tren is a really good lean mass cycle and I like the dosages you have outlined - however I would increase the cycle duration from 8 weeks to 12-16 weeks. Building muscle is a slow process.

You are going to need to add an AI to your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. You are also going to need cabergoline for prolactin support.
Cardarine GW is a great addition to any cycle with tren to increase fat loss, endurance, recovery and prevent tren related side effects. Read up on it more here: http://www.evolutionary.org/cardarine/

I wouldn't use HCG with your cycle. HCG is some nasty stuff. It actually raises estrogen levels and often is what CAUSES the gyno people experience from their cycle. Read this: http://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed/
If you are on TRT - your system is already suppressed. HCG is going to do anything.

Here's what I recommend.

test cyp 250 mg/e3d
Boldenone 300mg week
Tren a 150mg per week.
aromasin 10mg EOD <- ag-guys.com
cabergoline 0.5mg E3D <- ag-guys.com
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM) <- sarms1.com

So I've been looking into caber which I found a source but it takes some time to arrive. It's legit pharmacy tabs. But I also seen caber is not stable in a liquid form and not to bash the sponsors on this forum but everywhere I've read caber is not stable in a liquid more than 30 days and if that's the case one would need a fresh bottle of it and with shipping and all that, you'd be a few days behind on uses for it. What's your take on this.

 

[muskate]

So I've been looking into caber which I found a source but it takes some time to arrive. It's legit pharmacy tabs. But I also seen caber is not stable in a liquid form and not to bash the sponsors on this forum but everywhere I've read caber is not stable in a liquid more than 30 days and if that's the case one would need a fresh bottle of it and with shipping and all that, you'd be a few days behind on uses for it. What's your take on this.

Caber is not stable in a water based solution - correct

Ag-guys.com suspends their caber in an alcohol base. It tastes like crap but it allows the product to be stable and not degrade for 4-5 years.