Thanks Vadim..
This seems to be in disagreement with most opinions in the group (although I must admit, my original thinking was that an upper end TRT dose was the safest way to go). The lifelong commitment to it, reliance on UGL and health concerns (greater than a cycle with PCT) with...
Thanks all.
Yep if I understand it correctly you need u der 6nmol which I think equates to 173ng/dl, potentially multiple blood tests.
Would the anabar be for the last 4 or 6 weeks, or the full 12 week cycle? I also see plenty of recommendation to stick test only for first cycle
Thanks again for the input into this thread.
Lots to take in and process, but ultimately it seems that a cycle with good PCT is superior to commencing TRT for my circumstances;
1) No formal diagnosis of low TRT
2) Nearly 40, 2 kids. Vasectomy.
2) Australia based with very strict prescribing...
Thanks mobster. I researched when starting and read about a percentage of men with sides relating to ED, sex drive - however didn't experience any of these. From my basic knowledge, I will systemically have lower dht but should have higher testosterone in equal ratio.
Is there research or info...
Thanks all,
So I'm picking up the vibe stay away from TRT sized doses (eg 200mg per week), and therefore if I want improvements in muscle growth and fatloss beyond my own natural (gradually declining) abilities I should cycle, then perfect pct?
The main reasons for this are the lack of effect...
Sorry guys, I'm hitting the reply arrow but this doesn't seem to be putting the replies underneath the original comment.
Monstro, thanks for replying.
I appreciate the input. I definitely do not want to end up in a place where I am taking large amounts or very strong AAS and feeling trapped...
Thanks for replying.
You are right, I am more interested in being lean than huge (still looking for shape though) ...and I totally agree, my beliefs are that TRT that puts you at the top of physiological is safe and beneficial, whilst cycles begin to compromise health.
I guess where I got...
Thanks very much.
This makes a lot of sense to me...
Try self TRT for 12 months then PCT off, decide whether the perceived benefits of being the very top end of physiological testosterone translate into real life benefits. If they do, consider continuing, perhaps even with a doctor depending...
Hey guys.
39 year old male. Married with 2 kids. Vasectomy. Have trained over the last 20 years for strength and my own ego to look and feel better. No interest in bodybuilding shows.
183 cms. Used to run at 80kg lean (around 10% bf) 9 out of 12 months. Last 5 years to 10 years dropped the...
Thanks for the reply, didn't realize the fees for a transfer were so high!
I'd heard it was near impossible to get TRT in Australia prescribed. I have had regular bloods over the years and my levels were low without being anywhere near the 6 or 8 level required.
Maybe my terminology TRT was...
Hi all,
New to the page. Done a fiar bit of reading, so introducing myself first.
39 years old, always been tempted by anabolics but promised myself I'd wait. Kids and work have resulted in more and more time out of shape, less time in shape. Keen to re focus, but would like to tip the...
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