Using VM cuz too new to PM. Thank you for your intelligent response. I know clomid is needed because I had labs before and at week 5. This stuff is far more suppressive than I believe they want people to know. Between you and me I tried starting a thread including the labs which show my test levels at 1071 ng/dl before and only 41 ng/dl during week 5 of cycle. The thread was never approved to be posted. hmmm. I'm afraid if I put out anything that doesn't praise sarms on here.