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What's the Point of Using Harsh Compounds.?

nelson montana

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This is something I don't get.

I've never done Tren, or Anadrol or Halotestin or Superdrol. Sure, I understand in the case of Tren, the results are impressive, but it's just not worth the health risks. Why bother when there are plenty of other steroids that work so well without the nasty sides? There are so many better options.

When you come down to it, all steroids are basically testosterone. So ask yourself -- how much better will the end result be of 200 mgs of tren a week as compared to 400 mgs of testosterone?

I think steroids are amazing drugs that can improve your strength, health, longevity, immunity, and of course, make your bodybuilding progress skyrocket. Yet, the basics aren't good enough? You have to use something that makes you sick? It just doesn't make sense.

I admit , I LOVE dianabol, but at this stage of the game, I wouldn't chance it. But even when I did, I kept dosages low and duration short. Even when I competed, it was just Test and Primo. And I believe in the long run, it's allowed me to stay somewhat muscular in my old age. But big boosts from harsh compounds will have the opposite result -- in the long run. If you care about that sort of thing.
 
if you are competing against others who are using tren then you gotta do it too. powerlifting or bodybuilding applies. it is all about keeping up with your competition. you aren't gonna keep up doubling your dosage of test, not even close to as potent as tren is.
 
bro depends on how you define "harsh" steroids...i dont think dbol or trenbolone are harsh...or any harsher then any other steroids
 
bro depends on how you define "harsh" steroids...i dont think dbol or trenbolone are harsh...or any harsher then any other steroids

This right here. Harsh is dose dependent IMO. if you run things responsibly then you will be fine.
 
2000mg of test a week doesn't even come close to 300mg of tren. I only take "harsh" compounds because i can't achieve the results i want without them.
 
for me personally, the older ive gotten, the more harsh things seem to me personally... i attest that to just being tired of side effects, being around them so many years and that's not just use, but coaching and seeing it happen to others and just an accumulation of stress from opening a new businesses to covid to all the other nonsense going on... I agree though that some of these compounds are not necessary.... when you are miserable on cycle you cannot train the way you want anyway... things that make you so lethargic or angry make it hard to even train or to train with the intensity and focus you should be to get the most out of your cycle.. not to mention its harder to recover so while initially or on cycle, they may seem to do so much, its also a lot harder to recover, making it a lot harder to maintain gains made... all these years i've dissed anavar to the highest extent and now i have to eat crow because im doing so well with it and enjoying it so much but for whatever reason, im responding so well to it and not having to endure the sides i get with winstrol for example, make it so much more desirable to me... i guess that after years of experience, seeing it first hand on myself, and then all the years of coaching and being on forums, you see that just a little bit goes a very long way with most ped's...
 
bro depends on how you define "harsh" steroids...i dont think dbol or trenbolone are harsh...or any harsher then any other steroids

You may not think so, but your body doesn't care what you "think."

Tren was never meant for human use. It creates sweats, coughs, anxiety and labors breathing. Testosterone does none of those things. Testosterone is a natural hormone. Taking more of it just enhances what you have naturally. The body does not recognize Tren in the same manner. Denying that is just ignoring reality.

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2000mg of test a week doesn't even come close to 300mg of tren. I only take "harsh" compounds because i can't achieve the results i want without them.

And you are the perfect example of what I'm talking about. If you can't get "results" on 1000 mgs of test a week, then maybe bodybuilding isn't for you -- unless of course, you're a pro competitor and need to take those risks to win. Are you planning to win any pro shows soon?

Bottom line, you can do whatever you want. You can take boatloads of tren and wash it down with a quart of Scotch. But it's not particularly wise IMO. That's not a judgement. It's just advice to those who want the best results with the least amount of risk.

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if you are competing against others who are using tren then you gotta do it too. powerlifting or bodybuilding applies. it is all about keeping up with your competition. you aren't gonna keep up doubling your dosage of test, not even close to as potent as tren is.

Of course, but I wasn't referring to competition. In that regard there's lots of stuff that can give an advantage that isn't especially healthy. But for most guys who use AAS just to have the edge of having a more muscular body, which i presume is 98% of the people here, you do not need tren.
 
Tren is actually one of the few steroids originally mostly used for bodybuilding Nelson. Pharm grade parabolas was human grade. Once it went away now it’s ugl

I agree with you most guys don’t need tren. But if you really out in the fort for many years and want to take things to the next level it is thr one that will put u over the top.
 
Tren is actually one of the few steroids originally mostly used for bodybuilding Nelson. Pharm grade parabolas was human grade. Once it went away now it’s ugl

I agree with you most guys don’t need tren. But if you really out in the fort for many years and want to take things to the next level it is thr one that will put u over the top.


All true, though I should have been more clear. Tren, in its original inception was from Finiplex which was a cattle implant. It was released for human consumption under the name Parabolan but quickly removed from the market. Of course, it's all UG now.

And again, talking about AAS use for professional competitive purposes is something entirely different and in no way related to what most anyone here might use them for. I don't think too many pros go on message boards to find out what they can add to their cycle!
 
sadly the stronger the results, the stronger the side effects (most of the time)
 
Don't need tren 😆 ha!

Tren is where its at... Choose a lower dose if ur worried.

Avoiding tren is like going to the brothel and never picking the hottest girl. Fucking mental...!
 
Don't need tren 😆 ha!

Tren is where its at... Choose a lower dose if ur worried.

Avoiding tren is like going to the brothel and never picking the hottest girl. Fucking mental...!

I understand your perspective. You want what you want. So does every alcoholic, everyone who drops out of high school and everyone who wants to try heroin. They all start out mocking the warnings. But the long term results are never good. But when you're young, "long term" is very abstract.

So think of me a "The Ghost of Christmas Future." LOL I'm not here to tell you want to do. I'm here to help people who want the benefits of steroids without the consequences.
 
Don't need tren 😆 ha!

Tren is where its at... Choose a lower dose if ur worried.

Avoiding tren is like going to the brothel and never picking the hottest girl. Fucking mental...!
But when on tren it's like taking you wife to the brothel and letting the customers fuck her for free while you jerk off to it. Hell of a drug.
 
But when on tren it's like taking you wife to the brothel and letting the customers fuck her for free while you jerk off to it. Hell of a drug.

Tren, hi test and caber... And yeh some next level perversion...
 
tren is the relationship killer. never use it unless you are single!!

Yeh I lost my house n all that probbb cause tren n caber made me a fucking sluttttt.... Prostitutes, drugs, drugs and prostitutes but also while on gear... So the sex is Fucking sluttttty esp if you find the right girl... I'd take fantasy and drive to the brothel and fuk 3 girls one after the other. Go out clubbing taking 9, 10 caps mdma, coke, more crystal mdma... Then take Viagra and fuck. And be on heaps of gear with pre going out stack... On top of what I was already on. It would be an extra 100tren ace, 100 mast prop, 100 test prop, 50mg dbol, 50 mg drol.
And I must have stayed on caber year round at that time...
Id be sooo fucked up on drugs and fueld of steroids that u try anything sexualy, willing to experiment with Ur sexuality, but u know u only like girls, it's just the amount of drugs, caber dopamine level of changed behaviour just like the leaflet says. But fuck yeh it was awesome. I made out with any girl I wanted. Ohh that's right then got the misses pushed her into comming out and experimenting with her sexuality and giving her 6 caps mdma 43 kg asian. She'd get up on the pole at the strip club and get told to get down. Like we ended up both of us on drugs hooking up with guys and girls

Ohh yeh and even tho we earnt combined 170k we went broke too... Totally wtf we never checked our finances and had 13 credit cards 600k mortgage car loan. And all I know is all I wanna do is fuck Asian girls
Ohh yeh I'd go to thailand without her and cost like 9k for 9 days maybe and fuck and eat as many young hot Asian girls. Ohh yeh and the caber even thinks it's a good idea to try a lady boy.
Or maybe I'm just crazy.
I took lsd for 2 years. Every weekend. Had 10 plus flashbacks a day for 2 years, and hallucinations for years. It was Fucking awesome too cause I love hallucinations. Ohh Yehh and now I abuse prescription amphetamines and dnt sleep and go to work and somhow pretend to be a human being... And still earn 6 figure income. Cause Ur really not in reality.
And u know what I'm gonna take steroids till I die and fuck as many asian sluts. Retire in south east Asia, running gear, Fucking 18 year olds
Cause honestly nothing else interesting me more or completes my purpose in life more is Fucking as many girls as i can.

That's caber, strangely tho I fucking love it.. It's like literal dopamine injected addictionm


Buuuttt that level of promiscuity and experimentation is yes relationship killer. Because yes if u take caber test tren u will Fucking cheat. U will feel like a fueled God and all u wanna do is fuck Everyone
 
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