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Thread: HCG while cycling and in the pct or only in the PCT? (First Cycle)

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    HCG while cycling and in the pct or only in the PCT? (First Cycle)

    Hello There,

    So im planning a First cycle with Test E and dbol structured like this:

    wks Test e dbol

    1 500mg 30mg p/day
    2 500 " "
    3 500 ""
    4 500 ""
    5 500 ""
    6 500
    7 400
    8 300
    9 150
    10 50


    My Question now is when to take the HCG, because for me it is a must in a cycle to regenerate. Also what amount of Novaldex should I add to it and for how long?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Struttiboy View Post
    Hello There,

    So im planning a First cycle with Test E and dbol structured like this:

    wksTest edbol

    1500mg30mg p/day
    2500 " "
    3500 ""
    4500 ""
    5500 ""
    6500
    7400
    8300
    9150
    1050


    My Question now is when to take the HCG, because for me it is a must in a cycle to regenerate. Also what amount of Novaldex should I add to it and for how long?

    Thanks
    During our cycle hcg at 500 iu a week, so 250iu pinned twice a week is great.

    Run it until about 4 days before PCT then stop, running HCG in PCT will actually shut you down.

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    Sorry didnít address, Nolvadex is for PCT now whilst on cycle. You need an AI like aromasin for the cycle.

    Nolva is used during PCT at a typical dose of 40/40/20/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntwerkz View Post
    During our cycle hcg at 500 iu a week, so 250iu pinned twice a week is great.

    Run it until about 4 days before PCT then stop, running HCG in PCT will actually shut you down.
    So HCG not actually after the cycle? So Only while cycling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntwerkz View Post
    Sorry didnít address, Nolvadex is for PCT now whilst on cycle. You need an AI like aromasin for the cycle.

    Nolva is used during PCT at a typical dose of 40/40/20/20.
    So what would my PCT look like? When I take HCG 500 IUs a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Struttiboy View Post
    So HCG not actually after the cycle? So Only while cycling?

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    So what would my PCT look like? When I take HCG 500 IUs a week?
    PCT would be Nolvadex 40/40/20/20, clomid is 50/50/25/25. Meaning 40mg per day for week one and two, then additional 2 weeks at 20mg per day. Same applies to clomid.

    You should also be using aromasin during cycle at a low dose.

    PCT doesnít change with the use of HCG, same either way.

    And yes only HCG well on, not during PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntwerkz View Post
    PCT would be Nolvadex 40/40/20/20, clomid is 50/50/25/25. Meaning 40mg per day for week one and two, then additional 2 weeks at 20mg per day. Same applies to clomid.

    You should also be using aromasin during cycle at a low dose.

    PCT doesnít change with the use of HCG, same either way.

    And yes only HCG well on, not during PCT.
    Okay Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Struttiboy View Post
    Okay Thank you
    No problem man.

    Read this:
    https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...ed!-49252.html

    With that said you can exclude the SARMS and Cardarine as well as HCGenerate. Other wise this read explains what the SERMS (Nolva and clomid) do and gives you more general info about a PCT.

    So again disregard the extra stuff, you only need Nolva, clomid and aromasin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Struttiboy View Post
    Hello There,

    So im planning a First cycle with Test E and dbol structured like this:

    wks Test e dbol

    1 500mg 30mg p/day
    2 500 " "
    3 500 ""
    4 500 ""
    5 500 ""
    6 500
    7 400
    8 300
    9 150
    10 50


    My Question now is when to take the HCG, because for me it is a must in a cycle to regenerate. Also what amount of Novaldex should I add to it and for how long?

    Thanks
    HCG is a marvelous compound when used with harsher compounds, such as tren'. Suffice it to say, though, HCG simply isn't necessary vis-a-vis a test' tbol cycle.

    Too, Struttiboy, given that this is your first cycle, I will recommend that you run a test' only cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    HCG is a marvelous compound when used with harsher compounds, such as tren'. Suffice it to say, though, HCG simply isn't necessary vis-a-vis a test' tbol cycle.

    Too, Struttiboy, given that this is your first cycle, I will recommend that you run a test' only cycle.
    I figured Iíd tell him that too but it appears by his initial post heís dead set on it, so I just wanted to be sure he didnít run it during PCT.

    But yes I agree, it can worsen estrogen related side effects as we both know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntwerkz View Post
    I figured Iíd tell him that too but it appears by his initial post heís dead set on it, so I just wanted to be sure he didnít run it during PCT.

    But yes I agree, it can worsen estrogen related side effects as we both know.
    Oh wait because of the post error I didnít see dbol mentioned. I would agree dump the oral.

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